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Footnotes and Bibliography?

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alexus309 Calculating status...
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Feb 5, 2012 11:10 AM

It appears that Apple has overlooked the ability to create footnotes and a bibiography in iBooks Author. (yet it's specifically targeted at the academic textbook market) Can this possibly be true???

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
  • AnatolyTamilin Calculating status...
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    Feb 6, 2012 6:12 AM (in response to alexus309)

    I`m making "footnotes" by following:

    1. Adding a term in Glossary

    2. Setting up Glossary`s number to selected text which has to be footnoted (I`m selecting such text by italic style).

     

    When user presses on this text, he can see "floating" window with text from Glossary.

    It works fine now but I`m really hope that real footnotes will be integrated in iBooks Author very soon.

  • AnatolyTamilin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 6, 2012 10:16 AM (in response to alexus309)

    Well, actually the conception of iBooks Author is so, that I`m really can`t imagine where they can put footnotes except "Glossary`s trick". Frankly, they have to think about how to use "Glossary`s trick" in appearance of footnotes.

    I don`t like ePub style of footnotes and be frankly that in ePub we haven`t "usual" footnotes appearance. It sends us in "footnotes section" anyway and then we have to press "Done" or "Close" to come back to main content.

    "Glossary`s trick" has more better appearance and realization for readers BUT I need numbers of footnotes and not italic styled text to show "footnote is here".

    This is my main claim.

    I had other one re Styles (how to re-style it) but when I`ve found out how it is I liked it.

  • Pro4Mac Calculating status...
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    Feb 8, 2012 8:29 AM (in response to alexus309)

    I accidentally found out that iBooks Author will support footnotes! But you have to create them in another application first.

     

    So here's my story. I use Scrivener 2.2 to create my books. But I really want to use iBooks Author to spice up the final product. I had text for a book typed in Scrivener, with footnotes already created. I copied and pasted them into iBooks Author and lo and behold, all of the footnotes were insterted at the end of the section in iBooks Author as endnotes!

     

    The footnote numbers appeared by the text, and then at the end of the section, the footnote number appeared along with the note, I was also able to go to a footnote and decrease the size of the footnote number (which I like to be smaller than the chapter text). Heck, I'll just show you...

     

    Here are screenshots (it's an old journal of my that I am footnoting). First screenshot is what it looks like in Scrivener, text on the left, footnotes on the right:

     

    Screen Shot 2012-02-08 at 9.01.44 AM.png

     

    I naïvely copied and pasted this text into IBooks. Lucky for me, this is how it came out in iBooks Author:

    Screen Shot 2012-02-08 at 8.57.31 AM.png

     

    I didn't realize that I had found a work-around for this footnote problem until I tried adding more footnotes while working in iBooks Author (which led me to these posts). So here's proof that if you create footnotes in another program, at least iBooks Author will recognize and create footnotes for you and put them at the end of the section. I figure it's better than nothing, but not very elegant for such an elegant program. Again, I am also able to change the font size of any footnote number or the text in a footnote.

     

    By the way, if you use this copy and paste method, just make sure you copy and paste an entire chapter all at once. When I copied and pasted paragraph by paragraph, it reordered the numbers back to footnote 1 in each paragraph, and you don't want to re-number them by hand.

     

    If anyone else has tried copying and pasting with another word processor with the same result, please let us all know.

     

    You might be thinking, what's the point of all of this if I have to use two word processors? I think of iBooks Author as my last step, not a word processor. I don't plan on creating my book drafts in it (I've tried, I don't think it's very efficient), I've decided I just want to use iBoooks Author to layout the final content that I created using another word processor, one that has all of the tools I need for efficient writing. Pages, Word or maybe even TextEdit might also work for writing your draft. Since the stuff I write needs footnotes or endnotes, I really don't know of any other options at present if I want to use iBooks Author.

  • frustrateduser2 Calculating status...
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    Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM (in response to alexus309)

    I am having the same problem, and it seems to me to be a fatal flaw, rendering iBooks Author useless.  How could they have missed this????

  • James Rubin1 Calculating status...
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    Feb 11, 2012 8:40 AM (in response to Pro4Mac)

    After importing a text from Word chapter by chapter, then importing the endnotes section separately, I noticed that the endnote numbers were carried over into the text and in the endnotes section (which in my case is at the end of the entire book in my case) automatic numbering was preserved. (I also tried Pages with the same result). However, automatic numbering is not preserved in the text and there is no link from the number in the text to the endnote in the endnote section.

     

    So ... I first created a bookmark for each separate endnote. That wasn't so hard.

     

    Then ... I created a hyperlink from each endnote number in the text to the corresponding endnote in the endnote section. That was fairly laborious.

     

    All this works, but at this point you cannot go right back to your place in the text from the endnote. I'm thinking you might be able to do that by bookmarking each endnote number and then hyperlinking the endnote text to that number in the text.

     

    You would think Apple would have included this function as part of any serious textbook-writing app.

  • frustrateduser2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 11, 2012 10:47 AM (in response to James Rubin1)

    Thanks, I'll try it.  And you are right about the you would think....  I guess techies don't need to reference source material.

  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,535 points)
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    Feb 11, 2012 6:54 PM (in response to alexus309)

    You might notice that the big examle of an iBook and all its possibilities, Life on Earth, does not have any notes in what is available so far. It has one citation, which is in the text in parenthesis.

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