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Bring back old working Spaces and Expose

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  • Jose Reino Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2012 9:04 AM (in response to iPotential)

    I wouldn't blame it on Apple store employees, nor I care much for a refund, but I would like to make the point to Apple that you can't just take customers for granted. Probably it wouldn't work unlees a lot of did it too.

    I don't want Apple to design by committee, but they should realize that if they sell us something as being a great tool for workflow (and it was) they shouldn't come and cripple it in the next iteration and expect everybody to be happy about it. Most of the people that seem to like MC didn't even use S+E before. IMHO Apple should have introduced MC  as an alternative (or default, I don't care as long as I have an option. I am not one of those petty characters I see posting here that just don't want other people to have what they need) and let people figure which one they prefer. Almost like the simple desktop thingy back in OS 7 or 8.

    For me, from being a useful tool has become a daily pain in the neck.

    I could go back to Snow Leopard (and probably will as soon as I have some time) but it ***** to have to do all that work after paying for a new version. Is not the money, is having to pay to be aggravated.

  • iPotential Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Feb 2, 2012 11:43 AM (in response to Jose Reino)

    I agree with everything you say and hope you get the time to upgrade to Snow Leopard soon.  I avoided the frustration of feeling totally robbed by leave a copy of Lion on my multimedia Mac.

     

    My greatest concern is how long I need to wait until I can upgrade my hardware, which is the only reason I want to see this issue resolved in the longer term.

     

    It will be interesting to see if Apple wakes up to the fact that users of more sophisticated features might also influence a broader pool of general users.  I know my decision to move back to SL has stopped a lot of people I know downgrading to Lion.

  • DanAtWork Calculating status...
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    Feb 2, 2012 11:58 AM (in response to tmsnnnz)

    I recently got a new Mac at work that came with Lion. After a couple of weeks of trying really hard to make Mission Control work for me, I finally gave up. There was just no way for me to recapture the efficiency and ease of use I had with Spaces and Expose.

     

    It took some arm-twisting, but I convinced a member of our IT department to uninstall Lion from my machine and install Snow Leopard, the OS I had been using on my previous Mac. Maybe I'm missing out on some cool new features in Lion, but I was unwilling to take the Giant Leap Backward that is Mission Control. (Houston, we have a problem.)

     

    I plan to submit official feedback to Apple when I can find time. Hopefully lots of people will.

  • DaveSpencer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:19 PM (in response to DanAtWork)

    Good to see some sensible adult posts in this thread for a change instead of the idiotic rubbish that MM keeps insisting on. If you haven't sent feedback to Apple informing them about your concerns relating to the loss of Spaces and Expose then please do so.

  • Jose Reino Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 2, 2012 1:25 PM (in response to iPotential)

    I have the same problem. My MacBook is getting rather old and would like to upgrade this year maybe to a MacBook Air (Anyway, I digress). The problem is will this issue be resolved by then? Should I give it another try in the new hardware? which seems pointless or would it be possible to buy the new laptop with Snow Leopard preloaded. It would be interesting to see what would Apple do if a lot of people (or at least a noticeble amount) started asking for new hardware with Snow Leopard preloaded.

  • iPotential Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Feb 2, 2012 2:06 PM (in response to DanAtWork)

    One of the problems with Exposé/Spaces adoption is that matching the various features of Exposé/Spaces to a user's preferred workflow takes time.  It's not surprising that many users never find the combination of features that would work for them.

     

    DanAtWork - If there are other people in the office who are still using Snow Leopard why not help them try an approach to Exposé (and/or maybe Spaces) that would work for them.

     

    Realisation of the value of Exposé to me was instant (eg. four finger swipe down to find out which windows, regardless of application, I have minimised).  However, finding value in Spaces for my workflow took a while. It wasn't until I limited my self to two and assigned "option-." and  "option-/" to the left and right space that I found the navigation worth using for me.  I found that option-LeftArrow and option-RightArrow problematic, however I would be interested in knowing how others have setup their exposé and/or spaces?  Given that their is no one way to use these features, and users have different workflows/needs, it would be worth knowing about some of the configurations that people have found useful so that I'm not just suggesting my approach to all users.

  • icloud doesnt just work Calculating status...
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    Feb 4, 2012 7:33 AM (in response to tmsnnnz)

    Agree, mission control is terrible.

     

    Please bring back EXPOSE- all windows, as in snow leopard.  IT worked.

  • CT Level 6 Level 6 (14,960 points)

    Can't confirm!!

  • axelts Calculating status...
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    Feb 5, 2012 3:46 AM (in response to tmsnnnz)

    I agree that Mission Control is a complete failure!

    Osx users, let's make our voice heard by the developer team, asking them to get a switch in Lion to choose for the new Mission Control or the Old Space.

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • DaveSpencer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 9, 2012 3:28 AM (in response to axelts)

    Spoke to Apple tech support today and whilst the senior technician remained professional it was very clear that she was not overy enthusiatic about the removal of Spaces and Expose and the introduction of Mission Control. I was advised to send feedback to: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    Would all other disgruntled Lion users do the same.

  • boyfromoz Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
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    Feb 9, 2012 3:38 AM (in response to DaveSpencer)

    DaveSpencer wrote:

     

    Spoke to Apple tech support today and whilst the senior technician remained professional it was very clear that she was not overy enthusiatic about the removal of Spaces and Expose and the introduction of Mission Control. I was advised to send feedback to: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    Would all other disgruntled Lion users do the same.

    i not disgruntled. think Mission Control so much better than old bloated spaces is great. give it chance. you will get to love it and move on to. Apple not bringing back spaces. sorry. old feature now. nearly 9 month old since replaced.

  • RobBT Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Feb 9, 2012 4:18 AM (in response to boyfromoz)

    boyfromoz wrote:

     

    (...) Mission Control so much better than old bloated spaces (...)

    Bloated???

  • DaveSpencer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 9, 2012 4:19 AM (in response to boyfromoz)

    boyfromoz wrote:

     

    DaveSpencer wrote:

     

    Spoke to Apple tech support today and whilst the senior technician remained professional it was very clear that she was not overy enthusiatic about the removal of Spaces and Expose and the introduction of Mission Control. I was advised to send feedback to: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    Would all other disgruntled Lion users do the same.

    i not disgruntled. think Mission Control so much better than old bloated spaces is great. give it chance. you will get to love it and move on to. Apple not bringing back spaces. sorry. old feature now. nearly 9 month old since replaced.

    Please explain how in anyway is Mission Control better than Expose and Spaces. I have had Lion almost from when it was launched on my iMac and I will never grow to love Mission Control.I also run a Macbook on Snow Leopard and I just caanot find one single benefit of  Mission Control.

  • boyfromoz Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
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    Feb 9, 2012 4:27 AM (in response to DaveSpencer)

    DaveSpencer wrote:

     

    Please explain how in anyway is Mission Control better than Expose and Spaces. I have had Lion almost from when it was launched on my iMac and I will never grow to love Mission Control.I also run a Macbook on Snow Leopard and I just caanot find one single benefit of  Mission Control.

    Because that is just how ypo like your workflow. others have different workflows. I always hated spaces. expose ok, but now for me Mission control a perfect blend. you hate it many many love it. never twain shall meet. don't sdpeak for all of us, just is your preference. mine is by far mission control. Spaces gone for ever now so get use to it or go way backwards to old snow leopard.

     

    good luck

  • RobBT Level 1 Level 1 (75 points)
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    Feb 9, 2012 4:32 AM (in response to boyfromoz)

    boyfromoz wrote:

     

    I always hated spaces.

    Hated spaces???

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