Currently Being ModeratedFeb 9, 2012 3:26 PM (in response to Switch900)
Luckily I use Time MAcine and went back a version on the one comp system. Its really noticable, the overall performance INCREASE in the PREVIOUS version on the SAME hardware. Even the new Magic Bullet Looks 2 purposely built for '03 is slower to render than filters from '02. That is not to say its tolerable on short clips etc. its OK - but it chugs away on longer sequences compared to 02 . No knock on MBL2 or Red Giant at all - its the APP that has a performance issue for rendering and playback on unrendered clips. You'd think at least THAT (clean sequence created from scratch in '03 running '03 specific software would shine over the same thing in '02. Nope!
Boggles my mind that Apple let this out of the cage with hoopla that is truly NOT correct in their description. MULTI CAM - yes! Performance and stability increase - NO WAY JOSÉ!
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 1:35 AM (in response to montster)
I downgraded today install my copy of time machine and believe it or not its a huge performance issues, I am not upgrading anymore to the new version nor any version until I see some improvments they even took out another feature in this actual version that is a drag and drop overlay that is not anymore, because they suppose that we edit all shots with trimming some seconds off the clip. Mostly a dumb way of improving a software, all I know I am not upgrading to any version this version screams its performance is outstanding Multicam I could care less what they need to do is performance of all machines.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 2:44 AM (in response to Switch900)
Havent tried that but doubt they work as per the warning that you get if you want to open that 02 file in 03.
At any rate, I'm not touching that experimentation, I've got no hair left to pull out after all this!
hey how can you open the projects you started in 10.0.3 into 10.0.2
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 4:00 AM (in response to montster)
One little question about your test . . . were you using a newly created project in 10.0.3 or was it an updated 10.0.2 one?
You can see what I'm getting at . . . some people have had performance problems with updated projects.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 4:04 AM (in response to Ian R. Brown)
no it was a clean project
and it was giving major issues Ian, I started a fresh project and believe me I install and reinstall FCPX 5 times same issues. Its not an upgrade of the project its the program overall, that is not up to current machine standard.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 4:25 AM (in response to Ian R. Brown)
Hello brother Ian,
One project made in '02.
Same project REmade from scratch in '03
The fact is this. '03 runs SLOWER than '02 using the SAME computer systems (fastest avail) running the same projects from scratch - only difference being the two different versions of the prograpm FcPx.
For those who think this is not the case, they either
A. havent done this test
B. want to believe this test is wrong - "just because" ("just because " being a zillion possible reasons, one of which might be that someone just doesnt like ME lol)
EVERYTHING in this world is RELATIVE.
If one hasnt A/B'd the difference they MIGHT think the '03 is faster (because Apple tells them so) but one thing is a FACT :
On THESE two systems, the fastest, newest avail kits (MBP) Apple sells, 02 is very very swift and stable indeed. 03 all being the SAME, it is MUCH slower and LESS stable. Period. Fact. Inarguable.
I agree also with you Ian, that performance problems are most definitely related AS WELL, with projects updates. That's even worse than what I'm referring to in my testing. But even from scratch, '03 is a step BACKWARDS in terms of performance.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 2:17 PM (in response to montster)
You've saved me a lot of potential aggravation. It may have already been mentioned, but from my perspective it looks like Apple released 10.0.3 at the end of January, because the promised multicam would be available by then. They may have pooled their resources to focus on some of the functional pro features rather than fixes. It could be that their QA group didn't even get their hands on this release to do sufficient regression and performance testing. I don't condone Apple's behavior in the least; I'm just speculating on the forces that may be in play from my decades of software development and QA. For developers under the gun of an impending deadline, their view of the universe shrinks and their goal is to make sure the new stuff works and passes functional unit tests... in a very narrow, development centric use case. If they have tunnel vision, for whatever reason, regression testing and performance testing across a wide variety of customer project and hardware scenarios is the last thing on a developers mind. A QA group usually needs to get their hands on a code-frozen version of the software early in advance to perform this level of testing.
I read that Apple's head of product integrity left for Google recently. What we're seeing with FCPX may have nothing to do with his exit, due to the breadth of his prior responsibilities.
I'm going to give Apple 6 more months to get their FCPX act together and tread carefully in the meantime with Time Machine backing up everything except for raw media and render files. My personal fallback is Sony Vegas, which seems to run just fine on my MBPS in either Bootcamp or in a VM.
Again thanks for the heads up.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 6:04 PM (in response to montster)
Bummer... I have 14 days left on my free trial of 10.0.2 so I'll HAVE to upgrade to '3 once I buy it. I am in the process of working on a project that I won't be able to finish in 14 days, so I will be using a '2 version project with '3.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 6:09 PM (in response to Alfredo Jahn)
Re. 10.0.3 update.
Well this sums it up pretty good.
Its all been about THE SPECS.
But not the PERFORMANCE.