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how to change dvd player region code more than five times

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buttelax95 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Feb 12, 2012 11:24 AM

I have been watching some Region 2 dvds and have been switching back and forth between Region 1 and Region 2 without knowing that I could only do this 5 times.  Now when I put in a US dvd, it says that I cannot change the region.  Does anyone know a workaround to allow changing of regions more than 5 times?

  • kurt188 Level 4 Level 4 (1,325 points)

    It is a firmware issue, which has nothiing to do with the OS, so updating it or reinstalling isn't going to solve your problem. What you need is a way to change the firmware, which might be possible, but if it is, it's at your own risk, and you would definitely void your warranty.

     

    The first step is to know your exact Mac model and the installed CD/DVD drive, which you can find in System Profiler.

  • noondaywitch Level 6 Level 6 (8,130 points)

    Regretably, no. Only by replacing the DVD drive.

    As you've found this a firmware issue with the drive (insisted on by the same companies who like suing downloaders). There's no fix via the OS, and no region hacks like you can get on some standalone players.

     

    You can try the following - go to System Preferences > CD & DVD and set the DVD option to ignore. That will stop DVD Player automatically opening it (and then telling you it can't).

     

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    You can then try to open it with VLC or another third party player.

  • kurt188 Level 4 Level 4 (1,325 points)

    Regretably, no. Only by replacing the DVD drive.

    Sorry, that's not true. It's been done before by many people with great success. Even Apple can do it, if they choose. But before we can determine if it can be done for his model, we have to know what model it is and the installed drive.

     

    VLC works by ignoring any reference to region coding, but that requires a trade-off in terms of application stability, and somewhat jittery playback, which I can't stand, so I don't use it.

  • noondaywitch Level 6 Level 6 (8,130 points)

    I'm all eyes for the solution!

     

    As for VLC, they play fine on mine (and I still have all 5 changes available).

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,465 points)

    I've never understood why Apple still uses drives with region settings. You can buy optical drives literally anywhere that are region free. It's actually difficult to find one that has region limitations.

  • fane_j Level 4 Level 4 (3,655 points)

     

    kurt188 wrote:

     

    It's been done before by many people with great success.

     

    Pls post link to someone who did this on current or recent Macs.

    VLC works by ignoring any reference to region coding

    From

     

    <http://www.videolan.org/support/faq.html>

     

    Does VLC support DVDs from all regions?

     

    This mostly depends on your DVD drive. Testing it is usually the quickest way to find out. The problem is that a lot of newer drives are RPC2 drives these days. Some of these drives don't allow raw access to the drive untill the drive firmware has done a regioncheck. VLC uses libdvdcss and it needs raw access to the DVD drive to crack the encryption key. So with those drives it is impossible to circumvent the region protection. (This goes for all software. You will need to flash your drives firmware, but sometimes there is no alternate firmware available for your drive). On other RPC2 drives that do allow raw access, it might take VLC a long time to crack the key.

     

    From

     

    <http://wiki.videolan.org/FAQ_on_MacOSX_only_issues>

     

    Why won't VLC play DVDs from a region other than what my drive is set to?

     

    Many people try to use VLC to play DVDs from regions their drive is not set to. However, the DVD drives on most new Macs have region lockout on the hardware level, so VLC will not necessarily be able to play discs from multiple regions. You may be able to play the disc by opening it as a Video_TS folder instead of a DVD, or by changing the method used by libdvdccss to decrypt DVDs (go to Preferences->All->Input/Codecs->Access Modules->DVD without menus->Method used by libdvdcss for decryption). If you play a lot of DVDs from different regions your best option is to buy a USB or Firewire external drive that you can set to the region you require.

  • fane_j Level 4 Level 4 (3,655 points)

    Kurt Lang wrote:

     

    I've never understood why Apple still uses drives with region settings.

    Because it needs good relations with Hollywood. (Check the membership of the CCA.) Why? Well, guess who owns the copyright to the entertainment Apple sells through the iTunes Store. Incidentally, that's also the reason why Apple removed from Disk Utility the ability to rip audio CDs, which it had in early incarnations of Mac OS X (ripping with iTunes is not quite the same thing).

    It's actually difficult to find one that has region limitations.

    Are you sure about this? AFAIK, Sony and Fujitsu laptops have exactly the same region limitations issue; but maybe I'm wrong.

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,465 points)

    Are you sure about this? AFAIK, Sony and Fujitsu laptops have exactly the same region limitations issue; but maybe I'm wrong.

    By that, I meant if you were online to purchase an external, or a non OEM replacement internal drive. They're pretty much all region free.

     

    For instance, the Apple installed drive in my Mac Pro insisted on a setting an initial region any time I put a commercial DVD into the drive. The Blu-ray read/write drive I put into the second bay has no restrictions. OS X doesn't pop up any kind of question about setting a region no matter what disk you put in the drive.

     

    But you're right, Sony and Fujitsu (and probably Dell and any other well known maker) seem to use region specific drives. Which begs the question; if you can buy region free drives yourself while not committing any type of crime against the movie industry, why do makers such as Apple bother to use region specific drives?

  • kurt188 Level 4 Level 4 (1,325 points)

    I have a MacBook Pro 6.2 laptop with Intel Core i7.

    Okay, but which make and model of CD/DVD drive do you have in that machine?

  • kurt188 Level 4 Level 4 (1,325 points)

    Yes, that's the right info. If you want to try flashing the firmware on that drive, start by carefully reading, and re-reading the information given here on this site: http://forum.rpc1.org/viewforum.php?f=30 Ask questions in their forums if you're unsure about anything, before you do it.

     

    and the section for firmware flash of your specific drive is here: http://forum.rpc1.org/search.php?keywords=hc09&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk= t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

     

    It does seem to indicate that (at the time of writing) that particular firmware flash only worked properly if you did it from a Windows installation on your Mac, and on 10.6.7. so you may want to use Boot Camp and install Windows XP SP3 for that.

     

    Remember, your mileage may vary.

  • Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,465 points)

    Just want to note that anytime you flash a device, you risk bricking it. Use a UPS in case the power goes out, or is interrupted in way during any type of firmware update.

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