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Processor upgrade 1.1 macpro. is it worth it?

43976 Views 154 Replies Latest reply: Sep 9, 2012 7:01 AM by gumsie RSS
  • brettallica Calculating status...
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    Sep 2, 2011 1:36 PM (in response to mikecorp)

    I know what you mean, but I believe it is going to end up being true. I'm meeting the guy this weekend; on Sunday if all goes according to plan.

     

    I will post pictures of the processors and their newness, and hopefully will come back with some great installation news by the end of the weekend!

     

    mikecorp wrote:

     

    250 for a new pair?? Well it looks way to good to be true. I payed 260 for used pair on ebay. I looked everywhere for new, but never for that price.

    Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7), Secondary design rig and HTPC.
  • romko23 Level 2 Level 2 (395 points)
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    Sep 3, 2011 12:10 AM (in response to brettallica)

    In my opinion, not worth it given that the 2008 mac pro would still run circles around 2006 and 2009 or 2010. Unless you get the processors dirt cheap, I wouldn't bother.

  • harryb Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Sep 3, 2011 3:17 PM (in response to romko23)

    Lucky your opinion dont count.

     

    With a 92% performance increase of course it is worth it.

  • romko23 Level 2 Level 2 (395 points)
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    Sep 3, 2011 7:29 PM (in response to harryb)

    If you don't plan on upgrading to another model, then it does make sense in the long run. Me personally, I wouldn't have bothered since the 09 and 10 and also 08 models are worth it and the fact that the 08,09,10 models support EFI64 capability which not only is the future of where mac os x is going, but also technology in general. On the 2006 mac pro even with a processor upgrade, you won't be able to run K64 in Snow Leopard or Lion as the firmware is restricted to EFI32. For now, AMD's graphics cards use EBC firmware versus EFI64 firmware as this allows them to work in the 06.07 mac pro.

     

    Again, if 64 bit windows 7 and K64 in snow or lion doesn't make a difference to you, then by all means go ahead with the upgrade of the processors. Just remember though the processors won;t change the efi firmware to support 64-bit kernel of snow or lion, and windows 7.

  • allthepoo Calculating status...
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    Sep 20, 2011 7:35 PM (in response to allthepoo)

    Hi all, been a while since my last reply here. Wanted to be sure I had things sorted before replying. For those like me who have upgraded to 5356 processors and are (or even if you aren't) having issues with KPs I seem to have fixed my problems by using an altered version of Apple's 2,1 firmware from the Netkas foums. I won't link to it here because I'm sure that's likely to cause issues, but it's easy to find once your a registered member. I can't personally confirm that this works for other processors, though I have read others having the same successes I have experienced. Must say it's so nice to finally have my MP back in a healthy state. Now my processor upgrade is finally complete and stable, this machine really cranks along. Assuming you can get your hands on the parts required at a sensible price, this upgrade is well worth while. Next for me is upgrading to Lion, new video card, SSD in CD bay, and I should be good for another couple of years if required.

  • BigMac64 Calculating status...
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    Sep 22, 2011 3:04 PM (in response to allthepoo)

    I will confirm what allthepoo posted.

     

    I installed x5365 processors in my Mac Pro.

     

    If I stayed at 10.6.7; no problems.

     

    If I installed 10.6.8 or 10.7.x; I got KPs.

     

    I applied the altered 2,1 Firmware and it fixed the issues I was having with my Mac Pro 1,1.

     

    I have been running 10.7.1 with all updates applied and have had no issues.

     

    As far as the debate whether it makes sense to upgrade a Mac Pro 1,1 with faster processors...in my case I feel it did. I bought a my x5365s off ebay for $400/pair. I can get at least another 18-24 months out of this Mac Pro.

  • harryb Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Dec 19, 2011 8:55 PM (in response to mikecorp)

    When installed the X5355's, did the netkas thing and the Mac Pro 2.1 upgrade.  Never had any problems with KPs (touches wood).  The only thing I have noticed is that twice in the last six months, the CPU and Exhaust fans have raced on boot and continue to do so.

     

    Fix was power down, unplug from mains for a minute or two to rest the SMC, power and boot, all then is back to normal.

     

    Wonder if this comes about when upgrading to Mac Pro 2.1, the SMC firmware is not updated also and remains impossible to update.  Currently boot rom version reads MP21.007F.B06 and SMC version 1.7f10.

  • SiliconSam Level 1 Level 1 (135 points)
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    Dec 20, 2011 12:05 AM (in response to harryb)

      I have been running several months now with my 3.0 Quads and updated firmware.  But I did one KP a couple of weeks ago, while trying to print out several large PDF files all stacked together in the queue.  But I was using Acrobat 8.3.1 instead of the newest Reader, so that may have been it.

     

      Either way, I am not worried about it.  No fan issues or anything else.

     

      Running 10.6.8, haven't seen the need for Lion.....

  • Bradley Dichter Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
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    Feb 14, 2012 12:45 PM (in response to Der Det)

    Running 10.7.3 Server here with new 3GHz quad-cores but the AboutThisMac app is from 2008 and I guess it doesn't know from Lion or these chips.

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,110 points)

    I think there is a third-party utility called "about this Mac" that "fixes" the problem.

    Beige G3, G4/867, G4/dual 1.25 MDD, MacPro'09 w cheap SSD, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, and 9.2, 10.5 and Server - LW IIg, LW 4/600, ATalk ImageWriter L
  • Bradley Dichter Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    I tried it and it didn't. Maybe once it might have, but not with 10.7.3

  • Kim Hansen1 Calculating status...
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    Feb 14, 2012 6:32 PM (in response to harryb)

    (excuse this harryb, but by replying to your post hopefully an answer to a much later post can be provided)

     

    Go way back in this thread--harryb's suggestion with the injector works for me, on 10.7.3.

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,110 points)
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    Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM (in response to Kim Hansen1)

    click on the words in the heading of Kim Hansen1's post above

    (in response to harryb)

    and you will go right to it.

  • harry2448 Calculating status...

    My pleasure gents.

     

    How did it go Bradley - any joy?

     

    This is the same Harry but for some reason Apple ID would not recognise my former identity including d.o.b. so had to come up with new identity.

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