Currently Being ModeratedFeb 10, 2012 6:06 PM (in response to madeinoz67)
Just wondering if anyone else has picked one up for their system and has it got "hidden" benefits to our battery related woes?
I will not update the EFI until I have performed a test on 10.7.3 and then throw the EFI on for one further run through.... But 1.9 -> 2.6 seems like a big jump just for Lion Wireless recovery???
not on nieces mbp. both got them ship with Lion. one hold 7 hours or more tha other about 3. no change to either with 10.7.3 or firmware update, but they really only for wireless troubles. took 3 hour battery one back to Apple and they simlpy replace it. so no Lion problem but battery problem and needs to be fixed soon. will see how long new one last.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 12, 2012 2:23 AM (in response to boyfromoz)
As some of you remember I was on SL 10.6.7 until Lion 10.7.3 simply SL battery life was great. Since I had both OS installed (dual boot) I could make fair decision what is better for me and my MB (subjective 100%) and Lion was not even close to SL performance.
When Lion 10.7.3 was released I and read some of the posts where people could see some positive signs I decided to give a solid try to Lion 10.7.3
I did clean install (MBP 2011, 8GB RAM, SSD) with full update straight after. Later on I added only basics such as Sophos, Chrome, Skype, Adium, MS Office and not much more. Most of the time I run constantly are Chrome, iCal, Mail, Sophos and Skype only when I need to make a call (Skype kills SL and Lion).
What can I say after almost 2 weeks? Battery life is much improved, I'd say almost 85% (maybe more) of SL. It's good enough that I switched to Lion as the only Apple OS on my machine. I like Lion because it's good OS and it brings a lot of better functionality.
While I was writing this Adium, Chrome, iCal, Mail, Quicksilver, Sophos were running. Screen brightness was on 6 bars, keyboard on two, wifi on and battery was showing pretty good estimation (pic).
PS No widgets.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 12, 2012 8:51 AM (in response to DrChandra)
I've been following this thread from 6 or 7 months ago and your comments are a of good reference for me.
I've got a 2011 MacBook Pro 15" and, as many other users, I switched from SL to Lion and noticed, immediately, the drastic battery life reduction. As I'm doing transoceanic flights at least once a month and I need to work on the flight, for me that's important.
I lived a very bad experience when returning back to SL from Lion (different archive structure for Mail, backups from TimeMachine not compatible, ...) and, in any case, I won't live that again.
It really pays my atention your evolution! You seem to have accepted that Lion battery duration will never be the one of SL and you just accept it, isn't it?
Now, I normally have 7 hours in SL (all under control: no bluetooth, no wifi, low screen brightness, no keyboard backlight, no flash, gfxcard, coconutbattery on the background to check consumption, etc, etc) and, anyway, under these conditions, I think battery should last more than this!
So, my question is: if i return back to Lion, what would I find? 5 hours? Not for me!!!
As you said, I'll wait one or two years for a really major battery improvement and then I'll renew my mac!
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 12, 2012 4:07 PM (in response to Michael Empric)
I just recently bought a 13" MBP and have returned it twice and going for my third tomm.
The battery life is not at all what I expected....feel like I've gotten an HP disguised as a MBP!
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 12, 2012 9:19 PM (in response to Pokono)
Can anyone tell me what is happening to my macbook pro? Coconut Battery says it is 18 weeks old and has had 47 load cycles. Its current capacity is 5222 mAh, and design 5770 (90%). It is the 13 inch MBP 2.8 GHz. iSTAT NANO says the same, and I have always been careful about the temperature. I don't know what's wrong.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 12, 2012 9:43 PM (in response to danlg2969)
Thank you macmec. I think in this situation being sensible and realistic in making OS choice is the best we can do for our selves.
If I'm on the move like yourself SL would be me my choice. My improved results are based on very modest use therefore anyone who intends to do any serious heavy app work and relies on battery power mostly, think twice before you move to Lion.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2012 1:20 PM (in response to boyfromoz)
Well, after a week running 10.7.3 I can report only a slight increase in battery life using my late 2011 MBP 13". Nothing on it but Pages and Numbers. Typical use, check emails, bit on internet (no flash), scanned 5 photographs then unplugged scanner, typed a letter and updated a few spreadsheets all done at 1/3 brightness and no keyboard lights on and 3.5hrs of real use, max.
Just read about Windows 8 and its super battery life and being able to run on standby with zero battery loss....hmmm, down grade to SL or go back to a PC Laptop. Not good Apple, not impressed, you have had six months to sort this, very poor.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2012 2:09 PM (in response to lesliefromstockton-on-tees)
I spoke to someone from Apple yesterday about my battery issues since upgrading to Lion. Why does Apple make its employees deny there's an issue. He told me only a few people had an issue. My response: do 1000s of online comments mean that millions need to complain before something done.
I got suggestions like turning brightness to 50%, steps I'd already taken from reading discussion.
Result: told nothing to do with Lion, must be hardware issue & make appointment at store to check computer. Is it just sheer coincidence my problems started the moment I installed Lion on my 2011 MBPro?
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2012 2:39 PM (in response to Jan58)
I find this response most unprofessional of Apple, clearly there is an issue with Lion running on current MBPs.
Having a problem is fine, it is how Apple deals with its customers that is the issue. This is a real shame as to date Apple have been excellent. I refer to an issue with my Apple TV last week not displaying subtitles on a rented film, they were excellent, three credits and a refund for the hassle. Why are they unable to sort this issue?
The OS is excellent on many many counts, I wish they would just sort the battery problem.
Are you running 10.7.3?
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2012 2:52 PM (in response to lesliefromstockton-on-tees)
Yes, 10.7.3. The guy was very pleasant etc so no criticism of him in that way - employees have to tow a company line with their phone conversations. I'm getting a bit more battery now as I'm not running programs in background anymore when working away on whenever. But I would prefer to have skype, safari, etc running in background as I used to before upgrading (or was that downgrading) to Lion. And keeping the screen brightness down, taking off revolving desktop photos, anything that might use extra power, has kept the battery cooler than it was. But all these steps take away the fun. I also miss taking my MBP to work for the day without the power cord.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2012 2:54 PM (in response to lesliefromstockton-on-tees)
I had initial problems with my MBP when I first bought it and was not happy with about 2 hours battery life. Strangely enough, I updated an older MBP and had no change in battery life at all. Apple changed my MBP as it was still under warrenty and the replacement now gets about 5 hours, which is what I would realistically espect with the drain of playing vids, using Adobe Apps or burning Discs. Seems to be a problem with some, yet most are fine. Also the change from 10.7.2 up to 10.7.3 made absolutely no difference to the running of either MBP from how they were running under 10.7.3 so the update caused no problem here. Only fault I could pin anything down to? I got a Lemon from Apple and they replaced it with a Peach.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2012 11:17 PM (in response to macmeck)
I have to agree with macmeck, at least for those of us who prefer battery life over Lion's iCloud.
The 2010 MacBook Pro 13" models also benefit from a Core 2 Duo processor, which can be undervolted to provide us a realistic 8 hours of endurance under normal usage on the road. With the latest release of Lion I easily lost 2 hours or more compared to Snow Leopard, with battery estimates fluctuating wildly while surfing the web.
After more than 150 pages of comments and 3 Lion releases we're just going to have to accept the fact that Snow Leopard cannot be beat when it comes to battery life. Those who wish to move on to the newer operating system (or who don't have a choice) will need to keep this in mind. Perhaps with the upcoming release of the 2012 MacBook pro series we'll see a resolution to this issue.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 16, 2012 2:53 AM (in response to ssn637)
I have actually found some improvement since updating the software. i can get around 6-6.5 hours working with half brightness connected to wireless, surfing facebook, downloading torrents in the background and working on microsoft excel.
at this stage i am pretty happy, but still looking for the 8-9 hours i achieved initially.
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