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keg55 Level 5 Level 5 (5,595 points)
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Feb 16, 2012 6:40 AM

Just saw this article this morning for the next version of Mac OS X code name Mountain Lion. It's interesting that this new version is slated for this summer and so soon after last summer's release of Lion.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
  • softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 6:47 AM (in response to keg55)

    Like Lion before it, Apple has imbued the new software with many of the top-billed features from the iPhone and iPad, all with the intent of making its computers more useful and approachable to the millions that have snatched up an iOS device in recent years

     

    Oh, what joy...

     

    Looks like my unwanted migration to Linux is closer than I thought.

  • JoeyR Level 6 Level 6 (8,275 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:02 AM (in response to softwater)

    The little bit of integration they did with Lion was bad enough...  of course we all figured they'd keep going down this road, but I still don't like to see it making it's way to becoming official.  Unfortunately, the vast majority of Mac users like this sort of integration.  Apple generally follows the fairly sound 80/20 business practice.  You design around 80% of your user base.  Those of us that are more technically inclined make up a tiny percentage of overall users.  Most users are happy with being able to turn on the machine and just use it.  They don't want to worry about saving, memory management, application management, etc.  So long as everything looks pretty and they can check out FaceBook, they're happy.

  • softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:15 AM (in response to JoeyR)

    I know Joey, I understand where they're coming from.

     

    Doesn't change the fact that it's not where I'm going, and so my custom will inevitably have to be taken elsewhere.

     

    Sad, it really is sad. I do love my Macs!

  • Tgara Level 4 Level 4 (3,540 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:42 AM (in response to keg55)

    Here's the WSJ report on Mountain Lion

     

    http://allthingsd.com/20120216/meet-mountain-lion-the-latest-mac-os/?mod=atd

     

    It's also up on Apple's homepage.  Looks awesome.  I think the integration and similarity to iOS apps will be a good thing.

  • JoeyR Level 6 Level 6 (8,275 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:52 AM (in response to Tgara)

    Joy... "Twitter is deeply integrated into Mountain Lion".  I don't use FaceBook and I don't use Twitter because I don't want to.  Granted, I still won't "have" to use Twitter, but I'm going to be forced to see it all over.  If I want any third party integration, that should be my choice.

     

    Granted... this is a very early build and things can change.  I would expect the features they're including in this build will, however, end up in the final build.  Especially given all the changes that were forced on us with Lion, I don't see any reason for them to change direction now.

     

    GateKeeper... although not really an issue as it is now, I can already see the day when we'll need to jailbrake our Macs to install non-authorized applications.

     

     

    I think the integration and similarity to iOS apps will be a good thing.

     

    The vast majority of users out there will agree with you.  Us old timers haven't really been happy with the direction things have been going since Lion.  Most people will love it though.  We'll all be using iPads with keyboards in a few years.  Apple's financials speak for themselves.  What they're doing works.  Regardless of how vocal the minority may be, it doesn't make business sense to cater to them (us).

  • softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:48 AM (in response to JoeyR)

    JoeyR wrote:

     

    GateKeeper... although not really an issue as it is now, I can already see the day when we'll need to jailbrake our Macs to install non-authorized applications.

     

    And yet its worth noting that even at its most "secure", GateKeeper won't stop MacKeeper, undoubtedly the No.1 software disaster being allowed to run on Macs at the moment, and which is available on the app stores as '911 bundle'.

     

    (It's a bloody interesting choice of name, actually, isn't it, GateKeeper, I bet zeobit are well chuffed with the association they'll be able to spin out of that).

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,890 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:53 AM (in response to JoeyR)

    JoeyR wrote:

     

    Us old timers haven't really been happy with the direction things have been going since Lion.

     

     

    Speak for yourself.

     

    We'll all be using iPads with keyboards in a few years.

     

    I'm using my iPad more and more to write papers. I just bought Keynote too. The worst part about Keynote is all the cool features you lose when you have to save it as Powerpoint for an actual presentation. I guess I need to get that video-out port.

     

    Technically I guess I'm still a fan of Office, but Microsoft is flat-footed and Apple is moving fast. Where is my iWork 12 Apple???

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,890 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:57 AM (in response to softwater)

    softwater wrote:

     

    And yet its worth noting that even at its most "secure", GateKeeper won't stop MacKeeper,

    You can bash Lion and now Mountain Lion all you want, but you should, at a minimum, read something about it first.

     

    Now you can choose from three security options. You can download and run applications from anywhere, just as in OS X Lion. To be even safer, download and run apps from the Mac App Store and apps with a Developer ID. Or download and run only apps from the Mac App Store — the safest setting of all.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-02-16 at 10.54.21 AM.png

    Ergo, your statement is proven false.

  • softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 8:08 AM (in response to etresoft)

    etresoft, you don't read properly, here it is again for you:

     

    Softwater wrote:

     

    MacKeeper, undoubtedly the No.1 software disaster being allowed to run on Macs at the moment, and which is available on the app stores as '911 bundle'.

     

     

    Going to take that back?

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,890 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 8:29 AM (in response to softwater)

    softwater wrote:

     

    Going to take that back?

    It looks like I have to.

     

    Still, this is supposedly the "MacKeeper Light" version. If it is in the App Store, that means that it has to run as a self-contained application that can be easily deleted. Plus, the user has to fork over $29.99 first. Hopefully fewer will do that for an app with these kinds of ratings:

     

    Screen Shot 2012-02-16 at 11.24.47 AM.png

  • softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 8:36 AM (in response to etresoft)

    etresoft wrote:

     

    softwater wrote:

     

    Going to take that back?

    It looks like I have to.

     

    Still, this is supposedly the "MacKeeper Light" version.

     

     

    Alas, zeobit are a little more underhand than that. Apparently, the 911 bundle app bombards users with popups and other prompts to install the full MK app from the zeobit website. They are not very subtle, but they are pretty effective.

     

    Mk.png

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    Feb 16, 2012 8:54 AM (in response to keg55)

    Well at least the desktop backround looks cool.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,890 points)
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    Feb 16, 2012 9:25 AM (in response to softwater)

    softwater wrote:

     

    Alas, zeobit are a little more underhand than that. Apparently, the 911 bundle app bombards users with popups and other prompts to install the full MK app from the zeobit website. They are not very subtle, but they are pretty effective.

    At least the Mac App store requires an up-front payment and provides a mechanism for feedback.

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