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Adding transitions to non-Storyline clips?

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William Brawley Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)
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Jun 23, 2011 7:22 AM

Apparently, the first clip added to the timeline gets designated as the "Storyline". In my current project, it ends with a clip that is not designated "Storyline," and I would like to add a fade to black transition. However, FCP X seems to only allow me to add transitions (of any kind) to clips that are designated as "Storyline" clips. Yet, the FCP X manual states: "Effects can be added to any clips in the Timeline". Well, this isn't true.

 

How do I add transitions to any clip in the timeline? Do I have to always first right-click on a clip and choose "Create Storyline" for each clip to which I want to add a transition?

 

Thanks,

William

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  • aliruane Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Jun 23, 2011 7:27 AM (in response to William Brawley)

    I had the same issue and creating new storylines is the only way that I have been able to add transions to clips that are not part of the primary storyline.

  • hafken Level 4 Level 4 (1,225 points)
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    Jun 23, 2011 7:41 AM (in response to William Brawley)

    Yes, you can only add transitions to clips that are considered to be inside a storyline.

     

    storylines

    All instances of the Timeline contain a primary storyline, which is the main sequence of clips that you build to create your movie.

    Storylines are sequences of clips connected to the primary storyline. You can use storylines for the same purposes as connected clips (such as creating cutaways, compositing titles and other graphics, and adding sound effects and music).

    The unique advantage of storylines is the ability to edit a sequence of connected clips within the context of the other clips in the Timeline. For example, you can add cross dissolve transitions to a series of superimposed titles in a storyline and then adjust the timing of the titles to match clips in the primary storyline. Like connected clips, storylines can contain both video and audio, or they can be video only or audio only.

     

    It isn't as bad as you think though, as once you've created a storyline with a clip, you can continue adding additional clips to that same storyline. So it's not like every clip needs to be it's own storyline.

  • Joshua Irwin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jun 23, 2011 7:50 AM (in response to William Brawley)

    William Brawley wrote:

     

    Thanks for the reply. That seems like a odd "feature" to add. in FCP 7 you could add transistions to any clip you wanted. Kind of an annoying extra step.


    For sure, it makes no sense to me. Again, it seems like this is Apple trying to tell us how we have to edit. And if we don't do it "Their way" And if we don't, it just dosn't work.

  • Maikell Calculating status...
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    Feb 20, 2012 12:28 AM (in response to William Brawley)

    Strange behaviour here with my secondary storyline transitions:

     

    Added a superimposed title (secondary storyline) to a clip (primary storyline).

    Added transition to end of title ("Blur").

    Transition works, but affects the primary storyline clip at the same time

    Result: end of transition blurs, but so does the clip underneath - for the exact same amount of time.

     

    Tried various other transitions, but always end up the same.

     

    What's wrong here?

  • Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (104,605 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 5:55 AM (in response to Maikell)

    What transition are your talking about? The Blur title has a blur effect that builds it on and off the screen.

  • Maikell Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 6:45 AM (in response to Tom Wolsky)

    I've just added plain text (e.g. "Typewriter") as an overlay to the primary storyline and want it to fade out with a nice effect.

     

    The basic transition (no idea what it's called in English since I have the German localization) works well in terms of fading out the text overlay, and so do all the Wipe transitions. Others like all the Blur transitions (e.g. "Zoom & Pan") not only affect the overlay but also the Storyline clip below (part of clip "zooms and pans" along with the text overlay).

  • Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (104,605 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 6:48 AM (in response to Maikell)

    That's the way the blur transitions work. Try them inline. The blur the outgoing and them reduce the blur on the incoming. I don't think they're suitable for what you want to do.

  • Luis Sequeira1 Level 5 Level 5 (4,790 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 6:55 AM (in response to Joshua Irwin)

    What version of FCP X are you using? I'm on 10.0.3 and I can add transitions to any clip I like. Storylines are still used, but are automatically created when needed.

     

    Keep in mind that FCP X is different in many ways from older versions (and from other NLE), and introduces new ways of working and new concepts that may be difficult at first, but do pay off handsomely if you learn its ways. The notion of storyline is related to how you think *logically* of your content. Older FCP (and everyone else) has the notion of track, which used to be how you placed *physically* your content. This alone is a HUGE step forward imho.

  • Maikell Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 7:20 AM (in response to Tom Wolsky)

    @Tom Wolsky: There is no outgoing and incoming. It's quite simple: The text overlay (say 15 seconds) just sits there (on a secondary storyline if you will) as a sole element above the primary storyline (say 2 minutes).

     

    All I want is to have the text layer to fade out / disappear using a transition. For some reason this doesn't seem to work without the clip underneath being affected, too.

  • Maikell Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 7:25 AM (in response to Luis Sequeira1)

    @Luis Sequeira1: Thanks for your thoughts. I'm on 10.0.3, too.

  • Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (104,605 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 8:23 AM (in response to Maikell)

    The transition should work, but it depends very much on which one you use. Some transitions like blurs interact with the adjacent clip. A cross dissolve should simply fade out the text.

  • Maikell Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Feb 20, 2012 8:33 AM (in response to Tom Wolsky)

    Figured out a workaround:

     

    Select both the (text) clip and the transition and hit ALT-G for Compound Clip. In most cases (not all, though) the transition (even Blur) no longer interacts with what's one level below.

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