4 Replies Latest reply: Feb 29, 2012 12:29 PM by tlocane
tlocane Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I am running 10.6.8 on my MacPro (early 2008). I have 4 internal hard drives. The main boot drive has 10.6.8 and the secondary drive with a system has Lion. I cannot completely upgrade to Lion on my main drive until all my software is compatible.

 

My main boot drive started acting like it's in slow motion 2 days ago. No matter what I do (DiskWarrior, Disk Utility, zap PRAM, fix permissions) nothing seems to help. Every mouse click or movement gives me the dreaded spinnin wheel and it hangs for about 5 min and then does what it's supposed to do. I have logged into a new account w/ no special 3rd party apps or utilities and it still does the same thing. Hard drive diagnostics say my hard drive is ok. I have tried reinstalling the 10.6.8 combo update but that hangs after a few minutes of  starting. I am stymied.

 

I thought about restoring a Time Machine backup from 1 day before this happened, but before I attempt a full disk backup, need to ask what to do so as not lose everything.

 

I assume I must boot up from another disk or hard drive, correct? Can I simply select all the system folders and apps folder or do you think I should do a complete restore?

 

Thanks.


Mac Pro (Early 2008), Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • 1. Re: How to restore a backup from time machine in 10.6.8
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    I don't know diddly squat about TimeMachine specifics, but saw your post drifting off so I thought I'd better answer.

     

    Pondini is our resident TM expert, his web page is here

     

    http://pondini.org/OSX/Home.html

     

     

    I do advise this, TM is sort of a trap, you can't access the files directly too easily, without using additional expensive software. Only another Mac and only if TM works, and only to another like OS X verison.

     

    So if you have ANY opportunity to copy your user files to a normal regular storage drive and disconnect it you should take it before erasing your copy on the internal drive.

     

    You will likely find a huge amount of information here on my old thread if your attempting data recovery yourself from the main internal drive that is failing to boot, it's more geeky and involved

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/16276201#16276201

     

     

    also here

     

    https://support.apple.com/kb/ht1661

     

     

    once your personal data is safe in a neutral format, if the TM restore doesn't work you can always fall back on a manual reinstall of everything and returning your files.

     

    If you have to do a bit level recovery of TM, then that's going to cost $99 for DataRescue and blank hard drive to send the data too. It's occured before here so I'm just watching out for you.

     

    Also later consider using Carbon Copy Cloner, it clones, it option key boots, and the files (not filevulted) are accessible by any Mac, Linux or WinPC (with MacDrive installed), unlike TM.

  • 2. Re: How to restore a backup from time machine in 10.6.8
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    tlocane wrote:

     

    My main boot drive started acting like it's in slow motion 2 days ago. No matter what I do (DiskWarrior, Disk Utility, zap PRAM, fix permissions) nothing seems to help. Every mouse click or movement gives me the dreaded spinnin wheel and it hangs for about 5 min and then does what it's supposed to do. I have logged into a new account w/ no special 3rd party apps or utilities and it still does the same thing. Hard drive diagnostics say my hard drive is ok. I have tried reinstalling the 10.6.8 combo update but that hangs after a few minutes of  starting. I am stymied.

     

    Could be a failing drive, could be Lion when you boot doing something

     

    Disconnect all other drives etc., except the 10.6.8 boot drive, lets flush everything.

     

     

    hold Shift upon booting, this is Safe mode and fixes things, reboot

     

     

    then SMC reset, PRAM reset

     

    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

     

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/26871.html

     

     

    Run all of OnyX checks, maintainance and cleaning then reboot at the end

     

    http://www.titanium.free.fr/

     

    If you have AppleJack already installed hold command S at startup of 10.6.8 and Applejack AUTO and press enter.

     

    http://applejack.sourceforge.net/

     

     

    This mega cocktail will do plenty to rebuild everything and may catch your issue.

     

    If your still having problems I would try to isolate it, if it occurs only if your connected to the Internet, or after the machine has booted Lion etc.

     

    Narrow it down. It might be failing sectors on the drive, this has been known to cause beachballs as the hardware is trying to read from failing sectors, once it gets the information it should be transfering it to a new better sector and mapping off the bad one.

     

    You can expidite this process when you fresh install, by erasing the entire drive (or Free space only) with Zero function in Disk Utility before laying large amounts of data on the drive. (like a OS or partition)

     

    Good Luck

  • 3. Re: How to restore a backup from time machine in 10.6.8
    tlocane Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I was able to restore my drive from Time Machine and it was successful but some of the Apple apps quit unexpectedly ... Mail, Safari, iTunes. I tried everything you suggested and ran reset SMC, PRAM, Onyx and still no luck.

     

    This is what I get when Mail quits:

     

    Process:         Mail [254]

    Path:            /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail

    Identifier:      com.apple.mail

    Version:         4.5 (1084)

    Build Info:      Mail-10840000~1

    Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)

    Parent Process:  launchd [155]

     

    Date/Time:       2012-02-28 22:28:23.717 -0500

    OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)

    Report Version:  6

     

    Interval Since Last Report:          3452800 sec

    Crashes Since Last Report:           13

    Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  2089353 sec

    Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   3

    Anonymous UUID:                      8482E2D5-CBAA-4E14-B584-049644684330

     

    Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)

    Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000ffffffff

    Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

     

    Application Specific Information:

    -[IMAPMailboxSyncEngine _goWithMessagesIfNeeded:]

    -[MailAddressManager fetchImageForAddress:]

    -[iToolsAccount _synchronizeAccountWithServerWithUserInput:]

    -[LibraryStore setFlagsFromDictionary:forMessages:]

    -[Matador _setAttributeForFileAtPath:name:value:]

    -[MessageContentController _fetchContentsForMessage:fromStore:withViewingState:]

     

     

    There's a lot more but it was quite long.

    Any idea what may be going on?

  • 4. Re: How to restore a backup from time machine in 10.6.8
    tlocane Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I fixed it! I restored my Time Machine to an earlier backup ... a January date rather than a week ago, and everything ran perfectly, exxcept for Safari ... it would quit as before. Then the auto Apple Update notice popped up and I saw a Safari update so ran it and now everything is working again as it was.

     

    Thanks for your help.