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7586 Views 57 Replies Latest reply: Jan 24, 2007 6:21 AM by rvx
Well, tricky. You have to use the uninstall program that comes with the Itunes setup program. I downloaded it to my desktop from the Apple website. I had to remove Quicktime with the "Add/Remove" feature under "Control Panel." I'm not familiar with the operating system of Mac, but for Windows XP, you have to delete the Itunes folder in C:\programs\itunes. I went to site in the link and downloaded the Itunes setup program to my desktop and then ran it.
Oh, I also unchecked all of the features under Itunes preferences, then rechecked them once the program was reloaded and running. I don't know if this had any effect or not.
It's not much of a problem going back to 6.0.2, which I eventually did ... although 6.0.2 is lower, I have a sense (obviously subjective) that there is a greater fidelity when listening through my stereo system (even if I do have to play everything at +10 dbls) And, it is a little kinder to the neighbours when I don't. Anyway, nice to have met all of you on the internet superhighway.Toshiba Satelite A-10, Windows XP
Ooops! I missed the fact that you're a windows user! I think I'm going to hold out until Apple release the next update of iTunes, I'm not too keen on downgrading seeing as I've never had to do so before.
Thanks for your input, nice to meet you too.iMac G4 ~ 800 MHz PPC ~ 17" ~ 768 SDRAM ~, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
The decrease in volume IMHO is in response to a pending lawsuit filed 3 weeks ago and a previous ruling by a French court regarding the issue:
http://news.com.com/Applepulls+iPod+inFrance/2100-1040_3-960211.html?tag=nl1 Ghz Aluminum Powerbook, Mac OS X (10.4.5), 5G iPod 60GB
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 17, 2006 11:44 AM (in response to Seanachai)Thanks for the link. I have my views on that story but I won't express them here, but suffice it to say, I think it's completely ridiculous!
Also, am I right in thinking that - that lawsuit is in relation to the iPod and not iTunes? In other words do you think they are going to reduce the volume in iTunes as well??iMac G4 ~ 800 MHz PPC ~ 17" ~ 768 SDRAM ~, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
Thanks for the link. I have my views on that story
but I won't express them here, but suffice it to say,
I think it's completely ridiculous!
You're welcome and I too think it's ridiculous. People have to take some responsibility when using any product, however,
so do companies like Apple. I'm sure that within a few weeks someone will come out with a workaround to over come any decrease in volume included in updates for iTunes and the iPod.
Also, am I right in thinking that - that lawsuit is
in relation to the iPod and not iTunes? In other
words do you think they are going to reduce the
volume in iTunes as well??
Yes, in light of what has been stated in the previous posts regarding the latest iTunes update.1 Ghz Aluminum Powerbook, Mac OS X (10.4.5), 5G iPod 60GB
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 17, 2006 1:40 PM (in response to Seanachai)Well I suppose the loudness issue is separate to the Sound Check issue discussed here but if Apple are indeed forced to reduce the volume... Sound Check ought to be fixed as well!iMac G4 ~ 800 MHz PPC ~ 17" ~ 768 SDRAM ~, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
Right - I can imagine that soundcheck got messed up because they're trying to respond to the lawsuit issue, but right now it's just plain messed up. It's not useful for burning CDs in it's present form, and the lawsuits aren't about loud CDs.
I'm dreading trying to uninstall and reload version 6.0.1. Does anybody know if Apple has acknowledged this problem (which might suggest some intent to fix it soon)?3rd Gen iPod 40GB, 5th Gen iPod 60GB, Windows XP
Same thing, did a comparison with itunes and vlc, and vlc sounded far better. Actually had to turn it down!emac 1 GHz PowerPC G4 640 MB SDRAM, Mac OS X (10.4.4), Lacie 160 GB Ext. HD,3g 40GB ipod,4GB ipod mini,1GB ipod shuffle, 30Gb Zen NX
Although iVolume can't analyze the data of protected songs, and therefore can't set a proper level for each song individually, there is a way to use it to raise the level of all your AAC song purchases up to a reasonable volume. (It's better than leaving them at ridiculously low levels.) Here's what I did:
I put all of my purchased songs into a new playlist with just one MP3 that had been adjusted in iVolume, then I selected every song in that Playlist and ran iVolume on them, choosing the manual album mode. Whatever level that one MP3 song was at (I picked one at -3.5, which seemed kind of average) will be used as the level for all the songs. Those purchased songs that used to be as low as -13.5 all became -3.5.
It's not an ideal solution, but as a temporary work-around until Apple fixes their stupid Sound Check, it's OK.
PowerBook Titanium 1GHz Mac OS X (10.4.4)
PowerBook Titanium 1GHz Mac OS X (10.4.4)PowerBook Titanium 1GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 20, 2006 10:27 AM (in response to davepmiller)I don't know if Apple has acknowledged the problem. I suppose we could all submit "feedback"?
And to those of you who are just reading ALL my posts (I know who you are now lol)... why not join up and contribute to this thread if you're experiencing the same problem or if you have anything to add?iMac G4 ~ 800 MHz PPC ~ 17" ~ 768 SDRAM ~, Mac OS X (10.4.5)
I'm now using iVolume on everything, whereas previously I used it only on songs that Sound Check got obviously wrong. The latest iteration of Sound Check sets everything ripped or purchased by iTunes too low, so it's worse than useless: MP3s acquired from sources outside of iTunes (like eMusic) will play much louder, so the imbalances created by Sound Check become intolerable.
And a note to Apple: If this strange Sound Check behavior has anything to do with that idiotic "save us from ourselves" lawsuit, then you've made the ear damage situation (and your liability) worse. Here's why: If I set my iPod at a level that's safe for purchased songs, then I'll be blasted by an excessive level when normal MP3s start playing. That's not good.
The trick for raising all purchased songs up to a predermined volume by running them through iVolume is hardly ideal, but it is helpful. Be sure to choose "Manual Album Mode," which treats all the songs you've selected as if they were on one album and tries to keep the existing level differences proportional. When it finds songs that it can't analyze because they're protected, it assigns the value of the songs that it can analyze in an attempt to set an average level for the entire "album." Thus, if you throw into your "purchased songs" playlist one MP3 with a volume, say, of -3, iVolume would assign -3 to all the purchased tracks.
iVolume also let's you set a "perceived loudness" as a target value -- sort of like a normalization. I like it at 92%, but you can set it to anything you want. That's a feature that Apple ought to add. Good luck.PowerBook Titanium 1GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 22, 2006 5:21 AM (in response to Mark Block)"then you've made the ear damage situation (and your liability) worse. Here's why: If I set my iPod at a level that's safe for purchased songs, then I'll be blasted by an excessive level when normal MP3s start playing. That's not good."
Exactly!! Thank you Mark!
I must admit iVolume is tempting but I don't see why I should be using a third party application to fix problems that should be fixed by Apple. I'll wait 'til the next update and if nothing is done, I will have no choice but to use iVolume or similar applications.iMac G4 ~ 800 MHz PPC ~ 17" ~ 768 SDRAM ~, Mac OS X (10.4.5)