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Dual monitors and fullscreen fiasco, is there a work around?

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  • getbarrett Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is how you do it:

    Make the screen that you want to view the video (or app) on the "primary screen".

     

    This is done in System Preferences > Displays > Arrangement

    Click and Drag the little white bar (representing the menu bar) to whichever display you want to be primary.

     

    S0375_PositionMenuBar.png

     

    Here is Apple's support document:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5079?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

  • NiqueXyZ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Man that post ****** me off so much.

    1 -- that's already been mentioned a few pages back.

    2 -- it doesn't solve the problem, the other display STILL GETS BLANKED OUT

    Seriously, whiskey tango foxtrot.

  • symonty Gresham Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    That is not a fix nor a work around, the title of your response should be

     

    "how to select which of your minitors will become useless when using full screen"

     

    Very boring, I am not sure of the level of the discussions, but this is a serious issue, that we need to send to apple.

     

    It is a serious blow to real world use of fullscreen for anyone who uses more than a single monitor.

     

    All I want is a preference that says "Fullscreen, one display only" which means that which ever display the app is on when you fullscreen it will only fullscreen on that display and leave the others as normal.

     

    Without this, at present fullscreening an app is effectly turning my machine into a single process device.

  • JamesJM Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)

    Well, giving GetBarret the benefit of the doubt, he/she probably simply missed the gist of the thread, didn't understand the specific issue being addressed.

     

    What WOULD be helpful, for me, and I think others... is for someone who 'knows' to post exactly WHERE on the Feedback site a 'complaint'... or 'request' to address this issue, should be placed?  WHICH section, exactly... be nice if ALL our feedback complaints were going to the same department... "maybe".  - JamesJM

  • getbarrett Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ahh. Sorry all. I now understand what exactly you are experiencing and am searching for the correct feedback channel to get in touch with Apple regarding this.

    Sorry I was not able to help.

  • NiqueXyZ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    SmokeMonster posted that already a few pages back.

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17012867#17012867

    The problem is no one from Apple actually takes the requests seriously.

     

    It's like trying to tell someone the sky is black...they'll say it's blue because they only look at it in the daytime ^_^

     

    I'm sure they have someone who categorizes them and such and tries to bring them to someones attention, but in the end do they get considered when making design changes?  Probably not.

     

    The only time I actually got a response from someone at apple about a serious problem (ipad 2 light bleed display when they first came out) was when I sent a round of emails to the corporate management (tim cook, etc). -- someone called me back within a day from their "executive" support team, and actually did take my information and what my complaint was, etc.

  • JamesJM Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)

    It's impossible to know what Apple thinks, or how much input 'users' have.  My guess is that we have virtually 'no' input unless it truly hits them in the pocket book... rare, but it happens.

     

    I can understand this in part... keeps them highly competitive, but at the same time when the 'silence' carries over into failing to put 'users' at ease regarding obvious 'issues' with Apple products then... not so good.  Kind of comes off as one who puts their fingers in their ears while humming, 'nananananannannanananananana". - JamesJM

  • yeahalex Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    In addition to posting about it in this thread you can also ask Apple to resolve the issue here:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    I really think Apple are shooting themselves in the foot with this one - many people who use multiple displays are professional developers, designers, etc. It would seem sensible to listen to their needs rather than giving them reasons to switch OS.

     

    As a developer myself I also can't believe that it would be *that* difficult or time-consuming to offer those of us who use multiple displays the full-screen we want!!

  • NiqueXyZ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is why most people I know in the content creation \ digital media industry who use Mac products have not and will not upgrade to Lion, ever.

     

    Most of them will either not buy new macs, or if they have to, they will downgrade new machines that ship with lion  so they can purposely run snow leopard, and I applaud them for it.

     

    The mac pro hasn't been updated since 2010 anyway, so alot of these guys don't even have a hardware upgrade path.

     

    It would be nice if apple made a "workstation" os built on 10.6 and then a "consumer toy" os built on 10.7\10.8 and  you get to choose which one you want at the purchase of your machine...hehe, I can dream can't I?

  • yeahalex Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm considering doing just this - downgrading my MBP which shipped with Lion to Snow Leopard. Kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth having to do that though. Also since the machine came with Lion preinstalled I can't use Time Machine to go back, so I'm guessing the only way would be a clean wipe and install...

  • getbarrett Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just a thought/question... Have you considered just not using Lion's "fullscreen" with an app? Wouldn't that be like is was with SL in terms of external displays? Just drag to position and maximize the window and re-size as you wish?

    It seems to me that Apple did not take away or "break" any feature so much as added one and it's just not working in the exact way that people want it to. I think they designed fullscreen with MacBooks in mind where screen real estate is precious. I do know that in Mountain Lion, you can choose which monitor you want the fullscreen app to open on which is different from Lion, but it still keeps the other monitor as part of that same app. For example, if you open iPhoto and take it fullscreen, you can have the photo browser on one monitor and editing HUD, toolbars, etc. on the other.

     

    In terms of watching video full screen with Lion...

     

    With Quicktime, just drag video window to the monitor you'd like to use and choose View -> Fit to Screen

     

    With VLC (2.0):

    1) VLC -> Preferences... Interface > uncheck "Use native fullscreen on OS X Lion"

    2) Video > uncheck "Black screens in Fullscreen"

    3) Fullscreen Video Device = choose which monitor you want to use

    4) SAVE, exit and then re-launch VLC

     

    Every time something changes – especially big changes like a whole OS – and I don't particularly like a feature or wish it were different, I have to remind myself that Apple is not forcing me to buy their products. It is a choice and if I don't like it, I can send them feedback (which they are not forced to listen too), not upgrade or use something else. I certainly don't take it personally or think that "Apple doesn't care about it's users". It seems to me the opposite is true.

     

    And if you disagree with me, okay, but please don't be mean! Life's too short. It's just a computer.

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    Have you considered just not using Lion's "fullscreen" with an app?

     

    Yes, we have all considered it.  That is why we are upset.  We have been forced by this update to use our software in a crippled form.

    Apple is not forcing me to buy their products

     

    Unfortunately for me, I am forced to buy their products, because the software that my career requires me to use does not work on any other platform.

  • getbarrett Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Does not using the fullscreen feature of Lion, cripple your software or just make you use it how you did with SL? Wouldn't that just be a lateral move in terms of functionality? I'm not trying to be a smarta**, I'm really asking since I don't know what software you're using.

     

    Unfortunately for me, I am forced to buy their products, because the software that my career requires me to use does not work on any other platform.

     

    How the times have changed. I remember using my old Macs for years and people always saying that Apple will never really be a mainstream option because they developers only make software for Windows. In fact, in my career, I was forced to use PC's because there wasn't an AutoCAD for Mac so I certainly understand having to use a product that you despise.

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,240 points)

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion. If you look at my diagram from way back, you'll see that people would like to be able to flick through fullscreen apps with gestures like everyone else can with one screen.

     

    What they don't want to happen is the compensation of their other hardware (displays) because of it.

     

    As it sits now, it functionally doesn't work well with multiple displays.

     

    If you are looking for undestanding of why people might want to be able to use fullscreen apps and still have control of their other displays, simple read the history of this thread, it's all been said.

     

    No one is forcing anyone to use FS apps.The real issue is that they never reallu updated Spaces (which I ignored successfully since there was no added function in having multiple spaces since they too moved all the applications when you switched to them.

     

    With REAL control of multiple displays and fullscreen apps, the function, as it sits now, coupled with the idea that Mission Control works independently for each display (my idea) you could have virtually as many "Pads" as you do Displays, flicking through various ones and mixing and matching which ones you see on any given display.

     

    I digress. You're opinion is noted but if you honestly want to know "why" someone would want this, then simply read this thread.

     

    And for anyone who missed it the ten other times I posted it:

     

    http://bugreport.apple.com

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    These are both ways to directly contact Apple about issues. Of course this would probably be better suited to file as feedback. Apple does care about it's customers. It is better to file feedback then it is to post about it here.

     

    If you are pressed for time, choose to send feedback instead of posting here, the former benefits you more then the latter.

     

    -MIB

  • lmcurley Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Only recently upgraded to Lion on my MacBook Air and when using dual monitors it's not possible to use fullscreen. I was really looking forward to having a full screen webpage on one screen and then Excel open in another, but not possible with Lion.

     

    I could see an issue here for fullscreen video on a 2nd monitor, no longer possible. Looks like Apple ignored this for Lion release. Now will they fix in a update, or wait until Mountain Lion?

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