7 Replies Latest reply: Jul 7, 2012 5:01 AM by James Rothschild
jingleman007 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I hope someone can help me here. I have a couple of  problems with Lion that I have not seen mentioned anywhere. It's making me think that maybe I'm doing something wrong. Anyway here they are:

 

1) Folder dates not accurate: This one has actually really caused me a lot of pain. I have 2 machines running Lion. One at work and one at home. I often carry files from one to the other using my USB flash drive. As I am updating a lot of files each day, I had come to rely on the folder modify date to make sure that I don't miss some small file. And as far as I know, I never missed a file... until I installed Lion. Since then, I have noticed, on both machines, that the folder dates do not always get updated when a file within the folders is updated. For instance, I have a database file which gets updated every day, but I have to remember to copy it to the backup because the folder date has not changed in over a week. I have no idea what makes it change, when it does.

 

2) File transfers from Flash Drive unreliable: often when I am copying files FROM a USB drive TO my HDD (never happens in the opposite direction), the progress bar races along and finishes in a suspiciously quickly - (like in 1 second). To be honest, I've never checked at that point to see the status of the transfered files, but I know that it is impossible for them to have been transfered so quickly. I then drag and drop again. The second time it always progresses at a more expected pace and is always a successful transfer. It's never resulted in a problem for me, but it makes me feel a little insecure about the state of these transfers.

 

(I am running 2011 imacs and using Lion 10.7.3)

 

Thank you in advance for taking the time to ponder my issues.


iMac Intel, also have G5 iMac
  • 1. Re: 2 Lion Issues I have not seen addressed anywhere else.
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,125 points)
  • 2. Re: 2 Lion Issues I have not seen addressed anywhere else.
    jingleman007 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you, baltwo, that was a good idea. Of course, submitting a bug report won't generate any response. I'd still like to hear from others if they are having this same problem. And, of course, if anyone has a fix for this.

     

    I have to admit that I haven't spent the kind of time learning Lion that I have with previous OS X updates. For all I know, the problem might be user-related.

  • 3. Re: 2 Lion Issues I have not seen addressed anywhere else.
    jingleman007 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK - now I'm really bugged by this. I just saw a folder alter its modification date and it makes no sense to me.

     

    I have 2 folders named similarly and rely on the modification date to help insure that I don't copy files to/from the wrong one. I almost always view everything in list view, sorted by modification date. I was lookiing at the list and noticed that the older folder had a more recent modify date/time - it said something like 10:35 this morning. (it was about 11am when I noticed this) So I was worried that I might have worked on the wrong files earlier today. I went into the folder. Inside, the most recent file was yesterday at 8:22am. I back-buttoned to the previous list which shows the folder and the Date Modified time had changed to Today @ 7:52! which corresponds to nothing that the computer has recorded. It does, however, correspond close to the time I was making copies from both folders to my flash drive. But the final copy was made closer to 8am. So even that does not line up.

     

    This is a pretty basic system function so I am stunned to think that it has not been addressed by this time. Also surprised that no one else seems to be having the problem. So maybe it's something particular to my systems... but 2 computers in 2 locations??

     

    Thanks to whoever takes the time to read this.

  • 4. Re: 2 Lion Issues I have not seen addressed anywhere else.
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,125 points)

    First problem is having multiple folders with the same names. Break that habit. Second issue, AFAICT, is that folder mod dates only get updated when you put new stuff into them, not when you modify stuff already inside. I know nothing about flash drives, so can't help there.

  • 5. Re: 2 Lion Issues I have not seen addressed anywhere else.
    jingleman007 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK - got me. I have used Macs for an embarrasingly long time and I have to say, up until now I had no idea that the folder mod date relied upon the creation/introduction of new material into the folder.

     

    I have always relied on the modify date to help me sort out my files (when I am making changes to existing systems I often have a lot of copies of similar files/folders at different stages and for different media) -- it is difficult for me to believe that I never noticed that the directories did not get updated when existing files were updated... but hey - who knows... I'm doing a lot more, a lot quicker now. Perhaps I just had the time to be more careful before. Just goes to show you how great Macs are that someone can work as intimately as I do with them without knowing something that basic.

     

    I did test your info by transferring a file into that directory, and, as you said the modify date of the folder did change.... so you're definitely right, but somehow I feel that something else is going on here because I can't see how it explains what happened with the sudden change in the folder modification dates, this morning.

     

    At any rate, as you suggested, I will definitely have to modify my work habits.

     

    Thanks again, baltwo, for clearing up most of the mystery.

  • 6. Re: 2 Lion Issues I have not seen addressed anywhere else.
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,125 points)

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  • 7. Re: 2 Lion Issues I have not seen addressed anywhere else.
    James Rothschild Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    I see this too, you're not alone...

     

    I order folders by date modified.

    Especially for the backup folders on the Server when Retrospect copies data from users Workstations.

    In 10.7 this information os NOT updating, so Icannot at a glnace see the workstations that have droped off the backup autuomation, i.e: those at the bootn of the folder window.

     

    Very, very, very annoying.

     

    It's only 10.7 Server doing this, not Client.

    Not 10.6, 10.5, 10.4 Server or Client