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  • verstaerker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Feb 19, 2012 4:10 AM (in response to CdnBook)

    i have the same issue since 10.0.3 on my MBP (mid 2010) with a 12 minute projekt ... it's impossible to work ... every action i try i get a beachball for upto 30s

     

    then i copied the project on my MacPro (Early 2008!) and it works abolutly fine

  • Sofus Comer Calculating status...
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    Feb 19, 2012 5:16 AM (in response to CdnBook)

    Shame on you apple. Shame on you for ignoring your beta-testers for such a long time. Shame on you for making a fortune on faulty macs and software. Shame on you for not trying at least to communicate whats wrong and whats being done about it. The company strategy of keeping quiet just does not make things better. This dustcloud is growing and growing. From the frustration of thousands, I guess its not going to go away any day soon. You are lucky to have such symathetic and loyal customers. Dont throw them out

    Evidently, I guess, that since FCPX works on some and not on others has to do with graphic card issues.

  • TheMandrewIsMe Calculating status...
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    Feb 19, 2012 5:35 AM (in response to churchillstudios)

    Since first posting here back in September, the problem has somewhat 'fixed' itself. I don't know what happened. After another few weeks of crashing, restarts, etc., one day it just got more stable. That's not to say it's now a "stable" program per se, but it's certainly not the spinning beachball bonanza it was for me back in September.

     

    Like I said, I didn't do anything differently, though the last thing I did do (a couple weeks before it miraculously started working better) was reformat both my hard drive and my external hard drive (which was, prior to that, formatted to Snow Leopard) and reinstall Lion. That might have done the trick, but it's strange that it took 2 or 3 weeks to kick in.

     

    Anyway sorry I couldn't be of more help on this point - my only suggestion is to reformat/reinstall Lion and continue "breaking it in."

     

    It would really be nice if someone from Apple got on this thread with a solution, a pat on the head, something...

  • verstaerker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Feb 19, 2012 5:40 AM (in response to verstaerker)

    on my MBP i just excluded the final cut event and project folders from spotlight-indexing - after i restarted the machine i got some noticable speed-improvement

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Mar 3, 2012 7:49 AM (in response to churchillstudios)

    I have been making lots of post this past week about Jerky Playback, especially with video files having been recorded with no audio to them...

     

    I experience Jerky playback of video on 5 Mac. 2 of them are latest greatest with dedicated RAID0 and fully loaded RAM along with powerful graphic cards.

     

    All run LION !!!!

     

    So, I have been to colleagues' video rooms and they have indentical setups AND problems. They all run Lion.

     

    Yesterday, I visited a video hobbyist (friend of mine) he uses FCP X... On a Macbook Pro with a 5400 RPM external (TOTALLY SLOW - as it is crowded with all sorts of weird home-files) USB drive.

     

    He has smooth sailing all across the board. Incredible performance... I really mean INCREDIBLE...

     

    I could not believe it... So I brought my current FCP X project on a disk to his place. Mind you, this project consists of video files with no audio and they are causing FCP X on my $10,000 video-Mac to to totally stutter and jerk...

     

    I hooked up my drive to his 2GHZ (laughable laptop) and there you go... Total fast Skimming, NO JERK what so ever. We even hooked up a 30 Inch Display to his thunderbolt display port and really tried to force FCP X to its knees. (un) Fortunately, that was NOT possible. FCPX was performing incredible great. MUCH better than Premiere Pro...

     

    I was totally blown away by whay I saw....

     

    So I went home and installed Snow Leopard on my expensive (useless) machine.... And Boom... As the late and great steve jobs would say, I was FLYING...

     

    So to all of you... Using FCP X on Lion ...... DONT ---- Install Snow Leopard and you are going to be flying too !

  • innocentius Level 4 Level 4 (1,365 points)
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    Mar 3, 2012 8:10 AM (in response to Studio Engineer)

    I agree with you Studio. I have Mac Pro 1,1 (2006) and two volumes, on with Lion and FCPX and one with Snow. An I must say the difference is huge. On Snow everything goes smoothly, no stutter, no crashes and absolutely no spinning ball. So I stay with my trusted Snow Leopard as long as I can.

  • BROOKLYNTREEZ Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)
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    Mar 4, 2012 5:03 PM (in response to Studio Engineer)

    Yes yes yes.... apparently Lion has a memory leak somewhere with X. Mountain lion will hopefully address this.

     

    The Snow Leopard is still the King of the Jungle.

  • 3william56 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 7, 2012 6:11 AM (in response to BROOKLYNTREEZ)

    It's been said before on this thread, but bears repeating:

     

    The first thing to do on any system is to switch off the audio waveforms. Firstly, do it on the timeline pane: at the bottom of the FCPX window, next to the + and - magnifying glass sliders for clip size is an icon looking like a light switch. Click that, to get a popup named "Clip Appearance". In the row of 5 icons below the title, click on the second from the right. This hides the audio data in your project, which takes a godawful time to display.

     

    Next, switch off the audio waveforms on EVERY Event you are using. Click on the event, click View, Click Hide Waveforms. Repeat.

     

    I'm on a 2.66Ghz Core 2 Duo with 4Gb ram, Snow Leopard and it's transformed FCPX for me.

  • Rob Hambly Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 7, 2012 6:27 AM (in response to 3william56)

    Seems like if you turn off audio waveforms on one event, it'll turn them off for all events...  so you only need to do that step once....

     

    It does seem to speed up the software, though waveforms can be handy..  I guess you just need to turn them on as needed...

  • verstaerker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Mar 7, 2012 6:29 AM (in response to churchillstudios)

    this is an intresting fact, but no solution - i cannot work without waveform display as i often cut to music

  • aaronweinzierl Calculating status...
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    Mar 7, 2012 6:34 AM (in response to 3william56)

    ya I also do about half my editing to the audio - no waveforms would not be possible. seems like most people are having good results NOT being on Lion. I'm just wondering if Apple even knows what the issue is. I thought about rolling back to SL but I really like Lion in so many areas. what urks me is that I have a 2.2 i7 quadcore with 8GB of RAM and even use a 4TB RAID 5 thunderbolt scratch disk and still have issues - makes no sense!! I just keep waiting for each update hoping it will be fixed

  • verstaerker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Mar 7, 2012 6:48 AM (in response to aaronweinzierl)

    i will test this improved SL performance in the next few days ... and if i get a noticable differnce i'll write an feedback to apple

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

  • innocentius Level 4 Level 4 (1,365 points)
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    Mar 7, 2012 7:04 AM (in response to verstaerker)

    That is a good point verstaerker. We should not need to turn anything off. We should be able to run this Application with all functions on highest levels on decent machines. We should not need to do any work arounds to make FCPX crawl. Apple engineers have simply not done their job to make a "little" application work as intended.

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Mar 7, 2012 10:16 AM (in response to BROOKLYNTREEZ)

    BROOKLYNTREEZ wrote:

     

    Yes yes yes.... apparently Lion has a memory leak somewhere with X. Mountain lion will hopefully address this.

     

    The Snow Leopard is still the King of the Jungle.

     

    It's more than a memory leak, Lion has affected performance across the Pro_Apps line. The graphics subsystem is a dog, way to much junk running in the background. One of Apple's worst operating systems following on the heels of SL, one of it's best.

  • DirkTheDog Calculating status...
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    Mar 8, 2012 4:43 AM (in response to churchillstudios)

    On a 20GB Lion Mac Pro Dual Quad 2.6 (Early 2009 4,1), with internal fast 7200 1TB drives, FCPX 10.0.3 is still pretty unusable on a 40 minute project consisting of a Camtasia 264 output and a 1040i camera clip, with compound clips. Even when using proxy media. It skims nicely, and it plays back well, the problem is when using any tools, especially the blade tool. Each click on a tool causes at least 15 sec beach ball, but the worst is when trying to select a just-trimmed compound clip. That causes between 4 and 6 minutes of spinning beach ball, meaning that each cut operation takes about 10 minutes. Closing and restarting is another 10-15 minutes.

     

    Sometimes it will eat all memory and continues with virtual, until it hits the limit of 60 GB or so on my SSD boot drive.

     

    Not ready for primetime use at all, at the moment... What a pity, as the workflow is great, features cool, and the UI so nice.

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