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Producing an Indie film

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  • David Harbsmeier Level 7 Level 7 (29,560 points)
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    Jan 4, 2012 5:23 PM (in response to skier1260)

    >once you find your song you just apply for a music license and your done. right?

     

    No, there's much more to it than applying for a license.  If you're unsure about the process or your abilities in negotiation, hire an attorney that specializes in rights management.

     

    -DH

  • Gary Scotland Level 5 Level 5 (7,555 points)
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    Jan 5, 2012 5:35 AM (in response to skier1260)

    skier

     

    your going round in circles again!

     

     

     

    please listen to the advice from us folks who use production music on a daily basis, here are the steps I recommend you take

     

     

     

    • do not use music you come across on youtube or found on a CD under your desk - it will be  poor technical quality  probably not suitable for your use, will be very difficult to find the owner and its very expensive to use if you do it properly

     

     

    • use Production Music, this is music specifically made  for use in brouadcast TV, feature films, radio and independant production. It is the simplest way to obtain, use, pay for and licence music in video production.

     

    • read the information on the MCPS web site, it will tell you EVERYTHING you will ever need to know:

    http://www.prsformusic.com/users/productionmusic/Pages/default.aspx

     

    • look through the MCPS list of distributers on this page:

     

     

     

    • this is the EMI web site, the largest production library in the world,( as in Abbey Road Studios, the Beatles the London Symphony Orchestry)

     

    http://www1.playkpmmusic.com/pages/category_search/k.cfm?auto

     

    • register with the library to be able to download the track
    • regiter with MCPS to be able to licence and pay
    • you will recieve the licence in an email with an invoice

     

     

     

    (a 30 second track costs around £30-00)

    (licencing on line takes about 5 minutes oce youve regitered with MCPS)

     

    but youve got to read fully that MCPS information site

  • Studio X Level 7 Level 7 (26,835 points)
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    Jan 20, 2012 2:23 PM (in response to skier1260)

    Go find a local unreleased band that has a sound that you like. Talk with them. Convince them that the ski video has marketing potential for them so that they are interested in producing music for you.

     

    This is a win/win situation. You get a soundtrack at below market rates and they get exposure. It's all good.

     

    x

  • Gary Scotland Level 5 Level 5 (7,555 points)
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    Jan 24, 2012 5:11 AM (in response to skier1260)

    this can be easy or very difficult

     

    easy senario - you want to use a top 40 chart song:

     

    google the song name and artist for the record company

    email  the company

    they email you back next day and request payment of many thousands of £

    you cant aford it so your stuck

     

     

    difficult senario - you hear a song on a web site - you google the song title

    but after a month no info found so you wasted a month

     

     

    use a Production Music Library you search listen and purchase within an hour

    its about £1-40 per second for non Broadcast non paying audience fee-ten minutes would be around £840

     

    cant afford any of the above then learn the piano and write your own song?

  • Studio X Level 7 Level 7 (26,835 points)
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    Mar 20, 2012 9:44 AM (in response to skier1260)

    This is a new question. It would be best if you posted it in a new topic.

     

    x

  • Mark Ahrens Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:16 AM (in response to skier1260)

    If you're not copy protecting the dvds, Kunaki.com is pretty reasonable on low volumes.

    I always understood that you can only get copy protection on replicated dvds, not duplicated; however, i just looked at a previous link posted in this thread and they claim to provide it with 300+ qtys.  Did something change, i don't know about?

    Good luck on your project Skier - if i were you i'd start with small label bands looking to get exposure.  Seems that your type of production is always what they're looking for - youth exposure.  I've heard that once the bands get signed to a larger label, they can come back and 'renegotiate'.  Put a clause in your contract.

  • Warren Heaton Level 3 Level 3 (540 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 9:49 PM (in response to skier1260)

    Heya Tyler:

     

    Congrats on having your project at the point where you're ready to make and sell DVDs.

     

    There is a huge difference between a replicated DVD and a duplicated DVD.

     

    By replicating, you are creating a DVD-Video disc.  A replicated disc is stampled from a "glass master" or "gold master" that is made from the DVD disc image on DLT tape.  Anything that has the "DVD-Video" logo has been replicated.  The main thing that going with DVD-Video is that just about any DVD player should be able to play the disc. Also, the replicated discs match the master disc perfectly.  As long as the master disc is to DVD-Video spec, all of the copies are to DVD-Video spec.  Also, if you opt to use CSS encryption or Macrovision, these are availalbe through replication.

     

    By duplicating, you are burning the DVD-Video data structure (the VIDEO_TS folder) to a writable DVD format (DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD+R DL).  On a side note, as this is not a DVD-Video disc you can't legally use the DVD-Video logo.  Since each disc is burned from the source data, there is always the chance of a write errror that will result in a disc that won't play (I find that about 1 in ever 100 burns won't play because of a write error).  Furthermore, the DVD format you choose to write to may or may not play in someone's player.  Players made since the "DVD-Multi" logo came into effect will play just about anything that starts with DVD; however, there are DVD-Video set top players made from around 1996 or so to 2003 that won't play DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD+R DL at all.  Then, there are a few generation of Apple computers that will only play DVD-R and a few generations of Windows computers that will on play DVD+R.

     

    To jump to your prior question about Encore:  all DVD-Video streams wind up being 720x480.  Your edited master can be 1280x720, but the picture will need to be encoded as an MPEG2 stream prior to multiplexing your DVD-Video data.  If your source video is not already MPEG2, DVD Studio Pro and Encore will both convert it before it allows you to build the DVD.  I recommend using Compressor (part of Final Cut Pro Studio) at one of the "DVD Best" settings to creat your MPEG2 stream.  You'll get great picture quality and have your MPEG2 file ready to go while authoring your DVD.

     

     

     

    - Warren

  • Warren Heaton Level 3 Level 3 (540 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 8:42 PM (in response to skier1260)

    Hi Tyler:

     

    As it turns out, repliction machines are designed for high capacity output to meet the demand of replicating millions of discs per title.  There was a time that a minimum order of 2,000 was unheard of.  Even when the operator hits stop when 2,000 discs have been stamped, the machine will crank out another few hundred discs before coming to a complete stop.  This shows up as an over-run fee on your invoice.  You might order 2,000, but you'll get something like 2,258.  Any replicator that is doing a run of just 1,000 discs is running about 2,000, throwing the "extras" away, and selling you the remaining 1,000.

     

    I think Alied Vaughn will do one-offs.  You uplaod your DVD-video data, your disc artwork and your box artwork and they'll print one at a time.  If I remember correctly, the down side is that they have to handle the order fulfillment.

     

    I think you mentioned using sfvideo?  Serveral of my clients use them.  They have some good options for environmentally friendly packaging as well as ink for the disc art box art that isn't toxic.

     

     

     

    -Warren

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