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Anyone testing with the D800?

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Ernie Stamper Level 8 Level 8 (37,455 points)
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Mar 24, 2012 10:46 AM

Just took delivery of mine, and shot some photos in RAW.  Opened fine in Aperture.  Stamping of adjustments slower than expected, but other things might be going on to impact that other than the large file size.

 

An oddity is that in the Finder the CF card in FW reader is identified as No Name volume.  The SD card in USB reader is identified as D800 volume.

 

Have not yet experimented with video.

 

Ernie

  • chacro Calculating status...
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    Mar 24, 2012 6:02 PM (in response to Ernie Stamper)

    Lucky so-n-so...

     

    I've been playing with a couple I got off getDPI and actually I was rather surprised at how responsive they are. Looks like macbookPro i7 is up to the task. Import,loading,brushes and such all seems fine to me. I only have 2 files so I can only stamp one, but that didn't seem particularly slow. Not much different than my puny d90 files really.

     

    The raw files are verrryyy impressive indeed. I'll def be getting either the 800 or 800E. Just have to wait and see what the real world difference is as reported by actual photographers.

     

    Here's what I don't like about the files: 12 bit (14 not available to me) NEFs create a whopping 206MB tiff when I send 16 bit to PTLens. If I send 8 bit I get a more reasonable 46MB. I do a lot of architectural interiors and straight lines are a must, so most of my work gets a trip thru PTLens. Saving the large tiff from the plugin back to aperture is very slow, as expected.

     

    Here's hoping that Ap4 arrives soon with the tools I need to do this kind of correction on the raw. It's a slightly different take on the 'OMG the files are so huge' concerns you usually see. In fact, if 4 can't do this I might be tempted to make the switch just for not having to wait for the tiff files to save.

     

    Have fun getting to know the new machine!

  • chacro Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
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    Mar 25, 2012 10:54 AM (in response to Ernie Stamper)

      I am shooting 14 bit, btw, and 16 bitTIFF file from one of these also 206 MB.

     

     

    So 12 or 14 bit NEF makes no difference to tiff size? I find that sorta interesting. What's the difference in NEF size?

     

    The 12 bit I've been fooling with is about 35mb.

  • kidsdr Calculating status...
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    Mar 25, 2012 5:40 PM (in response to Ernie Stamper)

    I have ordered the D800E,and use Aperture3.2.3 for all of my photo management.  I downloaded NEF files from both the D800 and D800E.  The Camera RAW 3.1.1 update enabled Aperture to open the D800 NEF files but not the D800E NEF files.  Will Apple be updating Camera RAW again to include the D800? According to Nikon, the NEF files are identical from both cameras.  I suspect that ApertureiPhoto don't open the D800E files because the D800E in the file data is not reco0gnized.

  • chacro Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
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    Mar 25, 2012 6:50 PM (in response to kidsdr)

    While the NEF files will be identical, they'll have to create a new profile for raw conversion since it's a different camera and will need different conversion settings. The camera isn't available yet and isn't supported. There will have to be another raw update to handle the 800E.

  • Henk Cortier1 Calculating status...
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    Mar 30, 2012 2:20 AM (in response to Ernie Stamper)

    I just got my D800 and shooting RAW.  Everything is quite slow, especially exporting to jpg, I use the latest Macbook Pro 2.5GH and SSD hard drive. On my older Mac Pro it goes too slow to be productive at all.

  • Henk Cortier1 Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 6:52 AM (in response to Ernie Stamper)

    Hi, did some testing:

    on Macbook Pro 2.5GH - 8GB RAM - SSD hard drive

     

    exporting to fit within 5000x5000px, JPG 12, images shot in RAW lossless compressed

    150 pictures took 16 minutes to export.

    No other programs or activity meanwhile.

  • e2photo Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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    Apr 12, 2012 5:10 AM (in response to Henk Cortier1)

    I am also curious about import/export times with D800 files.

     

    How long does it take to import 100 lossless compressed NEF files?  And one what kind of machine and import device?  Are there FW or Thunderbolt card readers available?

     

    How long does it take to export to JPEG format those same 100 files?

     

    I have a 16GB RAM  3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 with SSD.

     

    Thanks

  • e2photo Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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    Apr 12, 2012 5:13 AM (in response to e2photo)

    Also, I have been reading that downsizing the D800 image to a 12 MP image pushes the ISO performance up considerably such that it approximates the D4 ISO performance.  The downsizing was done in Photoshop, but I was wondering if one downsizes during export whether the same effect might occur?

  • Henk Cortier1 Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    May 2, 2012 9:00 AM (in response to Ernie Stamper)

    I have the best MacBook Pro available (2.5 Quad i7, 8GB RAM and an SSD-HD)

     

    My preview settings are: Fit withing 2560x2560 and Q10

     

    My findings:

     

    - moving from one image to the next, it takes 1 to 2 seconds before the loading of the preview is done, with D700 you wouldn't notice it

     

    - comparing 3 images in 100% view to compare sharpness is impossible. One image remains sharp, the other two alternate in becoming sharp (hte oter shows Loading...).

     

    - processing a bunch of Adjustments takes ages: a few retouches and a few levels brushed in and I can go for a coffee with whatever next step

     

    - Exporting takes double the time as with D700 images (maybe this is normal, double size = double time)

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