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  • hessie Calculating status...
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    Nov 2, 2011 5:30 AM (in response to thebabak)

    Did anyone try this already?

     

    thebabak wrote:

     

    Here is a third party solution:

     

    https://github.com/sdsykes/Change-Space

     

    I am curious how it works on lion...

  • Andy Vandenberghe Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
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    Nov 2, 2011 5:47 AM (in response to thebabak)

    Thank you Thebabak for the Github link. It's a brilliant solution.

     

    here's the blog entry of Stephen Sykes :  http://pennysmalls.com/fixing-the-lack-of-2d-spaces-in-lion

  • rech-mülheim Calculating status...
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    Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM (in response to bamw504)

    have you wrote to apple? they need to hear things like this and i don't think they are reading all these forums themselves.

     

    i did and wrote something similar to them so let us all hope that they hear their users crying and improve lion by adding spaces again to the otherwise brilliant features of Os X Lion...

  • hessie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 8, 2011 10:05 AM (in response to rech-mülheim)

    I wrote to Apple, but still no answer...I hoped they read this. But as you I am afraid they do not. If they do, they are very quiet about htis.

     

    The professional market for apple is lacking their attention as they are moving more and more to consumer market. I still hope they hear this cry for help!!!!

     

    Indeed the other functions are great, but MC is a pain... windows keep losing their focus while in a simple case using a browser and type the url, the window is moving to the back. still typable, but not seeing what you do. Anyone else got this problem as well?

  • Adriaan Renting Calculating status...
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    Dec 21, 2011 2:28 PM (in response to hessie)

    I've just bought a new Macbook Pro and are now using Lion, while I was on Snow Leopard before.

     

    I find the new Spaces a real problem:

    1) No indicator of on which desktop you are anymore in the menu bar.

    2) Weird slow animation when switching desktops (slightly faster when using keyboard shortcuts

    3) No grid layout

    4) no cycling from the last to the first, if you're on the last desktop and you want to go to the first, you have to cycle back though all of them, unless you use the Mission Control. (I like doing everything with keyboard shortcuts, if I'm working in CLI like applications both my hands are on the keyboard.)

     

    Any suggestions to one of these problems are welcome. I can't find a solution.

  • fsbox Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    For what it's worth, here's a late feedback: after several months, I noticed today that I don't use Mission Control as much / as efficiently as I used Spaces.

     

    I do appreciate the clearer appearance of the application windows, with the app icon identifiying it, ...

     

    For me, it basically comes down to using Mission Control as an "Exposé+", since I have somehow progressively abandoned the use of different "desktops" although I was a fervent user of Spaces.

     

    Even tried to add "Witch" for better handling of the different windows of one single application, seems like a good program but does not work for me either.

     

    I have never been able to return to the efficient workflow that I had developed with Spaces + Exposé.

     

    Still regretting Snow Leopard a lot for that.

  • NorrinRadd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 2, 2012 10:09 AM (in response to fsbox)

    Same thing here.  The usefulness of OS X has GREATLY declined. 

    This is the biggest downgrade to OS X I have ever seen. 

    The feature that has been downgraded is the #1 reason I find using Windows unbearable: no easy way to manage large number of windows. 

     

    Anyone find a way to make the MC animation faster?  It's painfully slow compared to SL, even though I upgraded to an early 2011 MBP 15". 

     

    A few more mistakes like this, and to hades to with OS X.  I'll be going back to linux. 

  • duosx Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 2, 2012 7:56 PM (in response to NorrinRadd)

    If you miss Spaces in Lion & ML, I'd STRONGLY urge that you use ReSpaceApp

    Its the Lion replacement for spaces, with the minigrid, the ability to disable the slow Lion desktop transitions(or change them), and best of all drag windows between desktops/spaces, with tons of other features coming along quickly

     

    http://switchstep.com/ReSpaceApp/

  • thebabak Calculating status...
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    Apr 3, 2012 8:22 AM (in response to duosx)

    Thanks! That is quite nice actually. I've been working with it for just 5 minutes and much of the lost functionality (and good feeling) is back.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)
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    Apr 3, 2012 8:43 AM (in response to thebabak)

    No thanks. Too used to MC now and really hope never to see spaces returned in any future OSX. Hacks will be made for those who can't or wont adapt to change.

     

    Pete

  • NorrinRadd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 3, 2012 10:36 AM (in response to thebabak)

    so it's better than the one you recommended, thebabak? I'm ready to start looking at 3rd party solutions, as long as I know they work well.  If this brings SL Exposé and Spaces back, and disabled MC, I WILL ADOPT IT IMMEDIATELY.

     

     

    --Edit--

     

    It looks like it only does Spaces from SL.  What about Exposé?  YES, MC BROKE EXPOSE.  I need to be able to see a view of all the windows on the current spaces as well.

     

    MC DOESN'T DO THIS.  NOT UNLESS THEY'RE ALL THE SAME APP.   OR IT OVERLAYS THEM WHERE YOU STILL CAN'T SEE WHAT'S IN THE WINDOW.  (when everyone acknowledges this and stops acting like it isn't a severe downgrade, maybe I'll be less ****** about it)

  • NorrinRadd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 3, 2012 10:49 AM (in response to NorrinRadd)

    I really want to try it.  I have reservations though; the most important being, does it uninstall cleanly (100%)?  This is beta, and it alters the core OS it seems; I need to know I can get rid of 100% of it if I need to.  Thanks.

  • thebabak Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Apr 3, 2012 10:55 AM (in response to NorrinRadd)

    No, it doesn't disable MC. And I don't think it brings Exposé back (yet). As to uninstall, I don't see how it's different from any other app. Is it even possible to change the core OS?

     

    In any case, for me ReSpaceApp is better than the other work-around which had a lot of issues and I sort of stopped using it. It gives you a real 2d grid, with a grid switch view and does the transitions right. It's a good start, at least with more features promised.

  • duosx Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 3, 2012 4:22 PM (in response to thebabak)

    ReSpace's developer has said he plans on bringing back all windows expose, and testing his multiple display support soon toon.  If you use multiple displays, you know how broken MC is, you cant even drag windows from one display to another on the same desktop, ReSpace will fix this with an upcoming beta!

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)
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    Apr 3, 2012 5:55 PM (in response to duosx)

    I do hope he is developing this hack for those who want it within the developers version of Mountain Lion as well. Rather a bother for the few who want it if it only worked in Lion.

     

    Pete

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