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  • celliott147 Level 4 Level 4 (1,125 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 8:36 AM (in response to shortnuke)

    So you want a lift kit and off road tires for your BMW...

     

    and again, just because something CAN do something, doesn't mean it's MEANT to do it...I CAN hammer in a nail with my daughter's Barbie doll... I shouldn't... And I definitely shouldn't complain when it is difficult or doesn't go in very well because the Barbie was not MEANT to hammer in nails (even if it was some sort of contractor Barbie)...

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 8:37 AM (in response to shortnuke)

    OK.  I'll simplify it for you.  The iPad does not support a mouse.  Period.

     

    You want to use a mouse?  Simple.  Buy a different product.

  • shortnuke Calculating status...
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    Apr 4, 2012 9:52 AM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    OR...Users that are interested in this type of functionality could provide feedback to Apple that they are interested it, and Apple could make it available.  For example, the original iPad didn't have a camera.  The iPad 2 introduced a front and rear camera because people wanted it.  This really isn't any different.

     

    The case for enabling mouse functionality has been stated by many people.  I'm amazed at how stubborn people on this thread are about even acknowledging that others could find a use for this.  Unlike the camera, you don't even need a hardware change, it's simply unlocking the functionality that apparently already exists in the current software.

     

    celliott147, I agree with your view that there's a right tool for the job. Looking at your hammer analogy, I would say the iPad is the toolbox, not the hammer. The Apps and Features are the tools.  I agree that you're not going to get a table saw in there, but mouse support is more like a screwdriver than a table saw.  The other tools needed for what we want are already in the toolbox (virtualiation client apps, desktop mirroring via AppleTV, connectivity to Bluetooth keyboards, iCloud, etc).  It's all there, except for this one small component.

  • shortnuke Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 10:01 AM (in response to shortnuke)

    To lighten things up a bit, I'll add that it do find it funny that I can buy a meat thermometer, blood pressure cuff, scale, and baby monitor for my iPad but not a mouse.  So many creative uses of the device, with one simple one locked out.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,465 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 10:28 AM (in response to shortnuke)

    shortnuke wrote:

     

    I'm amazed at how stubborn people on this thread are about even acknowledging that others could find a use for this. 

    Most of us are not saying there is no use for it. We're saying it doesn't do what you want and, that if you really need a mouse, you are better off getting a different device.

     

    And, yes, my WiThings scale is very cool.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 11:15 AM (in response to shortnuke)

    shortnuke wrote:

     

    OR...Users that are interested in this type of functionality could provide feedback to Apple that they are interested it, and Apple could make it available.

    That makes more sense than whining on a user-to-user forum.

  • Steve Oliver Calculating status...
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    Apr 4, 2012 12:15 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    OK, this is for Philly_Phan, Celliott147 & Meg St._Clair.

     

    You clearly have no desire or requirement for an iPad with mouse functionality. Indeed, beyond that, you feel that nobody else should either. That's absolutely fine.

     

    And we've had stupid car analogies to support this that insist that a different car is needed to do exactly what is required - again, fine, if you are talking about cars that's probably correct, if you are talking about something that needs a software change or opening up of the Bluetooth stack it's probably something entirely different and well within the capabilities of the hardware.

     

    What I absolutely object to, is the complete villification of views that  do not agree with your rather narrow points of view (...doesn't do what you want it to do, buy something else!), when this is in fact a discussion forum to allow people to talk about what they would like to do peer to peer! I haven't heard one real argument why it would be bad to allow mouse support, (after all, mouse support is a logical extension of the keyboard support which Apple do wholeheartedly, even down to hardware). So, why don't you all accept that we aren't all the same as you, have different requirements for our hardware and aren't afraid to talk about them, and quite frankly, grow up!

     

    Steve Oliver

  • Steve Oliver Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 12:17 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    And adding to that - having lots of points does not make your views any more valid.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 1:18 PM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    If you think that this is vilification, you've got a real inferiority complex.

     

    OK.  I'll simplify it for you.  The iPad does not support a mouse.  Period.

     

    You want to use a mouse?  Simple.  Buy a different product.

  • Steve Oliver Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 1:29 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    hmmm - don't need simplification from you - I think I understand your position and you'd realise that if you could read; re-check my post to you. We know it doesn't support a mouse but we are allowed to discuss what we'd do if it did.

     

    Inferiority complex? Struggling with that as I wasn't on the end of your views earlier, so nothing to feel inferior about.

     

    So, you've made your point, several times, and not everyone has acquiesced and bowed down to your superiority complex.

     

    Get over it...

     

    And by the way, I believe the 'period' was at the end of the statement about 'The iPad does not support a mouse.' so the word 'period' after is completely redundant.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 1:30 PM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    Do you really believe that whining on a user-to-user forum is going to get you what you want?

  • Steve Oliver Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 1:37 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    Again - read my posts, no whining at all, but I support the views of others that would be keen on seeing mouse support, I would too. But having someone just repeat a mantra saying it doesn't do and buy something else whilst accusing someone of whining doesn't strike me as constructive.

     

    So, we differ I guess.

  • shortnuke Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 4:42 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    First, I have made very clear arguments and presented evidence as to why the functionality that I would like to see is well within the iPad's capabilities.  I would hardly call that whining.  From the research I've done, there are no technical reasons why the iPad can't support a mouse.  Android Honeycomb now supports it, so I won't be suprised when iPad eventually does as well.

     

    Second, I have in fact submitted feedback to Apple in the form of an enhancement request to enable the mouse as in I/O option.  I encourage everyone that reads through this forum to do the same if you're interested in getting mouse support. If people do, that would seem to negate the claim that this type of post on a user-to-user forum is useless.

  • rockmyplimsoul Level 5 Level 5 (5,375 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 5:23 PM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    Steve Oliver wrote:

     

    ... when this is in fact a discussion forum to allow people to talk about what they would like to do peer to peer!

    No, it is not.  This is a technical support forum where users assist other users with technical issues with their Apple products.  The lack of this feature on the iPad is not something that other users can help with, so the natural conclusion is to give feedback to Apple, and then move on ...

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,465 points)
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    Apr 4, 2012 5:28 PM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    Steve Oliver wrote:

     

     

    You clearly have no desire or requirement for an iPad with mouse functionality. Indeed, beyond that, you feel that nobody else should either. That's absolutely fine.

     

    No, I have no opinion on the needs of others. That's for them to determine. The iPad simply doesn't have this function. This is not an opinion; it is a fact. If this function is crucial to someone, the iPad is not going to meet their needs. This is not an opinion; it is a fact. No one in this forum can change this. This is not an opinion; it is a fact.

     

    Best of luck.

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