9 Replies Latest reply: Apr 6, 2012 12:24 PM by David Bogie Chq-1
RuthSchell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I did a 4 camera shoot which I want to edit in Multiclip.  EXCEPT the 4th camera was different that the other 3 Sony XDCAM EX 3, and recorded in 1440x1080 instead of 1920x1080.  It was in PAL.  So I used Streamclip-Movie Converter after the files had been converted to MOV, chose Frame Size 1920x1080 (HDTV 1080i) in Apple XD CAM HD 1080i50 (35Mb/sVBR) in a Batch List.  And I saw the list in 1920x1080 in my external drive BUT when I imported them in my project 2 weird things happened : 

1)  3 clips were the right frame Size (1920x1080) BUT the wrong Pixel Aspect HD (1440x1080) instead of Square.  I checked Streamclip for a Pixel Aspect option, but there were none.

2)  a new batch of clips labeled 1920x1080 in my destination folder in the external drive, when imported in the project, appeared as 1440x1080 in the Browser!

 

Does anybody have an inkling of what the problem could be?  I thank you very much in advance. 


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11), FCP 6
  • 1. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    poconorm Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

    That's so messy I couldn't even read the whole post. Easy out - take everything and convert to a prores of your choosing.

  • 2. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    RuthSchell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you poconorm for your suggestion:  I tried Export through Quick Time Conversion as H264 but I got lines whether I de-interlaced or not.  So it's unusable.  Do you know about Streamclip Movie Converter?

  • 3. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (14,245 points)

    If you used the same frame rates in all 4 angles, I don't see why you would need to reformat the HDV clips in Streamclip. (FCP should recognize that some are full raster and some are not and display properly). But if you require ebverthing to be the same, you could accomplish it in Compressor.

     

    Russ

  • 4. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    RuthSchell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you very much Russ H for answering me.  Yes I do need all the clips to be the same Format 1920x1080 / Pixel Square. Because when I mix 1440x1080 with 1920x1080, the former looks squooshed down.  I tried a form of Compressor by using Export as Quick Time through Quick Time Conversion.  Everything was fine EXCEPT I had horizontal lines (whether I de-interlaced or not).  Do you know about Streamclip Movie Converter?  What could be causing the clips to revert to 1440x1080 after I import them in the Project, even though they had been converted to 1920x1080 in the Destination Folder on my external drive? Thank you in advance for reading this.

  • 5. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (14,245 points)

    Couple of questions: What format is the original 1440 footage…is it one of the XDCAM flavors, or HDV? Were all four cameras shooting PAL interlaced?

     

    Compressor is very good at some things, including re-sizing and de-interlacing. Although I use Streamclip all the time, I'd go with Compressor to conform your clip.

  • 6. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    RuthSchell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you very much for your help Russ : yes all 4 cameras are PAL interlaced.  Three of them are 1920x1080, same time code.  The 4th is different:  1440x1080, Compressor XDCAM HD 1080i50 (35Mb/s VBR), Pixel Aspect: HD (1440x1080).  

    We shot in Lisbon and a local editor gave me all the footage as .MOV files on my drive.  He showed me how he used Streamclip to convert the 1440x1080 files into 1920x1080 and I wrote it all down.  But when I do it the converted files (1920x1080) in my Destination folder on my drive, revert back to format 1440x1080 when I import them into my Project!  Do you understand why?

    I looked at Compressor but I wouldn't know what Settings to choose.  My knowledge is limited to preparing files to make DVDs.  I would rather stay in Streamcip which looked so simple!  Thank you Russ for any solution you can think of.  Gratefully.

  • 7. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (14,245 points)

    Nick Holmes is the Streamclip guru on these boards and I bet if you started a thread about changing frame sizes in MPEG Streamclip so they are read correctly in FCP, he'll weigh in with the solution. Although I do use the software for a lot of things, the jobs that require changing pixel aspect ratios are done in Compressor.

     

    Good luck.

     

    Russ

  • 8. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    RuthSchell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you Russ for suggesting the "Streamclip guru" Nick Holmes.  Actually I learned about the existence of Streamclip from him. It was about bringing a DVD into FC.  I would love to try Compressor to convert Frame Size and Pixel Aspect ratio but I don't know what Settings would give me the Options of Size?  Would it be abusing your generosity to ask you that too?  Thank you very much.

  • 9. Re: Trying to convert codec to match in multiclip sequence
    David Bogie Chq-1 Level 7 Level 7 (24,695 points)

    > But when I do it the converted files (1920x1080) in my Destination folder on my drive, revert back to format 1440x1080 when I import them into my Project!  Do you understand why?<

     

    That's probably just a pixel aspect ratio setting. The files are probably sourcing the same original media. One has the square pixel flag on, one has it off.

     

    The main thing with multiclip in Ye Olde Finale Cut Pro was that they all had to be exactly the same format. Exactly. FCPX changed that a bit but it's still much easier to do multiclip with congruent media. And not long GOP codecs or highly compressed codecs like H.264. Use real codecs like ProRes.

     

    Whoa. I just realized where I was! 

    How did I get here?

    Am I dreaming? It's a nightmare.

    I gotta wake up!

    Aaaaarrrggh!