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  • Steve Oliver Calculating status...
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    Apr 5, 2012 4:53 AM (in response to rockmyplimsoul)

    rockmyplimsoul wrote:

     

    Steve Oliver wrote:

     

    ... when this is in fact a discussion forum to allow people to talk about what they would like to do peer to peer!

    No, it is not.  This is a technical support forum where users assist other users with technical issues with their Apple products.  The lack of this feature on the iPad is not something that other users can help with, so the natural conclusion is to give feedback to Apple, and then move on ...

     

    Apple call it the 'Apple Support Community' and I define support in many ways. I'd include the validation of ideas and thoughts other people have before going somewhere else to request that functionality in that definition too. So, I accept that the word 'discussion' shouldn't have been used above but Apple say 'Join the conversation' so not wildly out.

     

    I for one, have been really interested in how others have been talking of using extra functionality (should it be enabled) and have been enjoying those conversations. Especially as Apple may well enable the function (there appears to be no 'technical' reason why the hardware can't do this) and I can see these views becoming excellent tips and ideas as to how to make the most of it - that's another Apple tenet listed above - share tips and solutions. So, I guess it's many things to many people.

     

    Steve.

  • PogoPossum Level 4 Level 4 (2,505 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 6:50 AM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    Steve Oliver wrote:

    Apple call it the 'Apple Support Community' and I define support in many ways.

     

    You can define it however you like. However, Apple (the owner and host of this community) specifically says "Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer." (https://discussions.apple.com/static/apple/tutorial/tou.html).

  • Steve Oliver Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 11:06 AM (in response to PogoPossum)

    PogoPossum wrote:

     

    Steve Oliver wrote:

    Apple call it the 'Apple Support Community' and I define support in many ways.

     

    You can define it however you like. However, Apple (the owner and host of this community) specifically says "Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer." (https://discussions.apple.com/static/apple/tutorial/tou.html).

     

    You're right, I can. And since you brought that up, Apple also says

     

    • Be polite, constructive and stay on topic.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/static/apple/tutorial/etiquette.html

     

    And I see precious little evidence from some people supplying real technical support answers or being polite. Perhaps you'd like to point that out to them too? At this point, I think we're probably off topic if we're to observe Apple's etiquette - nice jousting with you.

     

    Cheers.

     

    Steve.

  • celliott147 Level 4 Level 4 (1,125 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 11:08 AM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    ok. here's a cookie. that's what you want right? you want iOS with a mouse? you can google how to hack a macbook air to do it... boom. solution. have fun now...

  • Steve Oliver Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 5:44 PM (in response to celliott147)

    celliott147 wrote:

     

    ok. here's a cookie. that's what you want right? you want iOS with a mouse? you can google how to hack a macbook air to do it... boom. solution. have fun now...

    I have no idea what you mean when you ask if I want a cookie.

     

    But here is how you are fundamentally missing what people are talking about - they (and I) do not want iOS with a mouse, they (and I) want an iPad with mouse functionality! That may be synonymous now but potentially not synonymous in the future. Think bigger than now!

     

    Now, I realise I've just given you your 'in' to come back to me with a highly technical support response such as 'doesn't do it, get over it, suck it up, buy Android etc etc' but I'll take that risk. Now, as for your suggestion about hacking Apple products, careful, I've already been told what this forum is for  - PogoPossum, want to come in now?

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,395 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 5:56 PM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    hey (and I) want an iPad with mouse functionality!

    It does not exist.

    Suggestions here -> http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • PogoPossum Level 4 Level 4 (2,505 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 6:24 PM (in response to Steve Oliver)

    Steve, I come to this forum to provide support to users. Sometimes that includes explaining to people what the purpose of this forum is. You, on the other hand, seem to have come to this forum solely to post on this one thread and complain about the iPad. There are better ways to spend one's time.

  • Steve Oliver Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 2:43 AM (in response to PogoPossum)

    PogoPossum wrote:

     

    Steve, I come to this forum to provide support to users. Sometimes that includes explaining to people what the purpose of this forum is. You, on the other hand, seem to have come to this forum solely to post on this one thread and complain about the iPad. There are better ways to spend one's time.

     

    I really didn't come here to complain about the iPad (I've had/got iPad1 through iPad3 so it isn't as if I have a problem with them). I did however, support the views of someone who had some interesting ideas for using a mouse and clearly those views are not shared amongst the majority of the forum. So, I've learned that lesson and won't be posting again.

     

    Steve.

  • Steve Oliver Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 2:43 AM (in response to Chris CA)

    I know, thank you.

  • terra100 Calculating status...
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    Jun 5, 2012 6:18 PM (in response to Tropical wanda43)

    I'm coming late to this thread -- but I really would like mouse support with iPad.  I would love to move to a virtual office when I'm on the go, and having the mouse and keyboard with an iPad would be ideal.  I've made a request to Apple. 

     

    But it occurred to me that if they offer mouse support with iPad, they are probably cannibalizing some of their laptop market -- wonder if it's a cash flow issue?  And maybe not the technical issue.  Oh to be a fly on the wall at Apple!

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,395 points)
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    Jun 5, 2012 7:10 PM (in response to terra100)

    terra100 wrote:

     

    I'm coming late to this thread -- but I really would like mouse support with iPad.

    Suggestions here -> http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • SAS Daniels LLP Calculating status...
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    Dec 6, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to Chris CA)

    From a marketeers point of view there's a fundamental piece of information to consider here . . my desk and most of our lawyers = a PC/docked laptop, keboard, mouse, large screen and mouse and an iPad. So the point is we would buy more ipads and less PC's/laptops(of the windows variety) not less ipads and more macs because we want a mouse. So mouse functionality would steal off the windows market, just poitning out we should buy a Mac is daft since the whole infrasructure is geared toward MS/Citrix/VMware etc, as are most corps. The addition of the mouse fits in with device function aggregation trend we have seen with all sorts of devices ove last five years. Granted the market share point is nowhere near that of the consumer market, yet the corporate market does heavily influence it . .

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,395 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 10:03 AM (in response to SAS Daniels LLP)

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    poitning out we should buy a Mac is daft

    Where did I suggest you buy a Mac?

  • Phil0124 Level 6 Level 6 (9,570 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 10:43 AM (in response to Chris CA)

    The fundamental reason I think people want a mouse is because they do not realize fully, that an iPad is not a portable computer . It is not meant to do the things a computer does. Its media consumption device, and as such it was envisioned with the touch screen. Toting around a keyboard and a mosue defeats the purpose of the portability of the device.

     

    Yes I have a Bluetooth keyboard at home, but I onyl ever pick it up when I'm writing a lot of stuff on the iPad. sometihng I don't do when I'm on the go. 

     

    The iOs would need to be serisouly reworked to include a mouse pointer. Not only because it would mean having an even greater difference between the iPad iOs and th iPhone iOs which up till now have remained fundamentally similar and allowed the usage of Applications on both devices.

  • SAS Daniels LLP Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 7, 2012 2:14 AM (in response to Phil0124)

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    iPad to the left, Laptop docked to the right . .

    This is what I am talking about, I don't want to tote around a keyboard and mouse, nor do I necessarily want a mouse for the iPad generally, just in a virtual desktop (whether that be RDP, VMware View, Citrix Receiver) at my desk, via a dock. Now it may be that it's for those guys to develop (ie MS, VMware, Citrix) and indeed you can use your iPhone as a 'touch pointer' in Citrix . but hammers the battery and impossible to take a call.

     

    Ok, a look at the commercials. I am Head of IT for a law firm, everyone wants (and I think rightly, an iPad), however, we have to limit this to seniors for cost reasons. Now think about Windows 8 and the Surface tablet, or Andriod wih Honey Comb . . a pad where you can use a mouse, again I'm not saying you would want this whilst out and about, because you have the beauty of the pad in all sorts of ways, eg in court jumping around a large document with your pad in hand instead of leafing though great piles of paper, consuming legal media on the train, answering emails, watching a movie at night . .all the things we love our iPads for . . But what is my commercial decision going to be in the future? Buy an iPad at an extra £500 or run down my stock of Desk PC's and buy a Windows/Andriod Pad (with mouse support at the physical desk) at no extra cost overall . . also look at the desk clutter! Now don't get me wrong, I really, really, want to buy iPads . . and all the commercial buys of iPads to date (which took the market by surprise) was because there was no real pad alternative . .however that distinction or gap is fast closing. So where as the commercial maket for iPads is very small and came as a surpirse, in fact with BYOD, it may become a driver and influencer (not of course the driver and influencer) of the consumer market. Why? Because commercial decision makers like myself will have to make that kind of decision also taking into account our infrastrucures, ie the millions invested into MS, VMware, Hypervisor, Citrix infrstructures, and the overall cost of a device 'at the desk'

    Thanks for reading . .

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