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  • DIMAGENIA Calculating status...
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    Apr 5, 2012 3:36 PM (in response to cherylfromirwin)

    Sadly I don´t have enough time to answer each one of you separatedly, but I want to explain myself a bit more...

     

    The absence of Flash in ios devices is clearly a matter of business, not a problem with Flash itself. Maybe when Steve writed the famous letter things were different, but not now. Adobe worked a lot of time to make an ios version, but Apple always rejected it (officialy because wasn´t up to the Apple standards, maybe, but I think the problem was another).

    As stated before from other posters, Flash is ALREADY supported in ios devices, they just refuse to support it in the browser, keep that in mind!

     

    I believe the technology is simply a tool to make our lifes easier and better, and I don´t stick with any brand or device.

     

    It´s not my case, but I´ve seen many users without tech background buying ios devices WITHOUT ANY INFO about the lack of flash support, because everybody is used to surf the Web with Flash friendly browsers...

     

    Apple is a huge company, with some great products, but from my perspective is a BIG mistake to believe everything they say, because many times it´s simply marketing or they lie to earn more money, as usually this kind of companies do everyday.

     

    Flash is far to be perfect, but ios devices could be supporting it (as Apple computers do) without problems. If Flash is so bad, outdated and useless, why Apple supports it in all their computers in the first place?

     

    HTML5 is not the standard yet, actually it´s way far from Flash. There are thousands of websites made entirely with Flash, and many more with some Flash contents, like animated buttons and menus, and we can´t access those sites with all this overpriced devices, that´s the fact...

     

    I don´t want to buy another tablet to surf the Web, I like my ipads, but I whould like it a lot more supporting Flash, is so simple as that!

     

    If you buy a great (and expensive) car, but the manufacturer don´t like you drive it in certain roads, it´s not that great, don´t you think...?

  • Allan Sampson Level 10 Level 10 (122,145 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 3:39 PM (in response to DIMAGENIA)

    Flash is far to be perfect, but ios devices could be supporting it (as Apple computers do) without problems.

     

    Flash causes problems with Apple computers - major problems.

     

    http://daringfireball.net/2010/01/apple_adobe_flash

     

    Beginning with Snow Leopard on a Mac, web content plugins now run in their own process primarily due to flash.

     

    Apple did this for two reasons. Serlet’s stated reason on stage was “crash resistance”, as mentioned above. As for why such crash resistance was worth implementing, Serlet explained that, based on data from the Crash Reporter application built into Mac OS X — the thing that asks if you’d like to send crash data to Apple after a crash — the most frequent cause of crashes across all of Mac OS X are (or at least were, pre-Snow Leopard) “plugins”.

    Serlet didn’t name any specific guilty plugins. Just “plugins”. But during the week at WWDC, I confirmed with several sources at Apple who are familiar with the aggregate Crash Reporter data, and they confirmed that “plugins” was a euphemism for “Flash”.

     

    Flash is no longer pre-installed with a new Mac. If a buyer wants Flash installed on their new Mac, they must download and install it themselves which speaks volumes.

  • DIMAGENIA Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 5:03 PM (in response to Allan Sampson)

    Flash is no longer pre-installed with a new Mac. If a buyer wants Flash installed on their new Mac, they must download and install it themselves which speaks volumes.

     

    As far as  I can tell, flash is not preinstalled with any new computer, but it´s one of the first plugins to install in your browser first run...

     

    I´m a veteran with many kinds of computers and mobile devices, and from my personal experience Flash is not specially buggy. Anyway, preventing Adobe to provide Flash support is the best way to kill it, but we are paying a high price, because some years has passed since the release of first ios devices, and HTML5 is not taking the market yet, neither in a near future...

     

    Can I ask if you have Flash installed in any of your computers now? (this question also goes for the rest of posters quoting me before)

  • PogoPossum Level 4 Level 4 (2,505 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 5:13 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    PogoPossum wrote:

     

    We as loyal customers deserve to have a choice, not to be locked without one of the most widely implemented Web technology...

     

    My 2007 Honda Fit "deserves" to have a different kind of engine. Where should I go to demand that Honda replace my engine with one that I chose?

    I demanded that the dealer put the new Bugatti engine in my Fit!  They laughed at me.

     

    How did you get an '07?  The first ones imported into the States were '08.

     

    Were they? I bought a used 07 in the spring of 09, when my Civic DX died. I know that the manuals for the 07 and 08 are identical, but the 09 had some changes...

  • PogoPossum Level 4 Level 4 (2,505 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 5:16 PM (in response to Philly_Phan)

    Philly_Phan wrote:

     

    paulcb wrote:

     

    @Pogo: Curious, how do you like your Fit?  Actual MPG?  Reliable?

    I have the '08 "Sport" with automatic trans.  Really happy with it.  I jokingly call it a "mini-SUV" because of its versatility.  I kept track of gasoline consumption for approximately the first 15,000 miles.  I live in New Jersey, which is rather congested.  My overal mpg was 32.  I never tried to separate city/high mpg.

     

    Two negatives:

     

    1. Because of the short wheelbase, the ride is kinda choppy.  No problem for trips up to an hour.  For long trips, we take my wife's '07 Accord, which is a really fine road vehicle.

     

    2. That year, the Sport with auto had "paddle shifters," which are a joke for passenger cars.  They make sense for race cars with a half-turn lock-to-lock but with 3.5 turns lock-to-lock, I never know where the paddles are.  I used them maybe three times in 60,000 miles.

     

     

    I like it. Very reliable car for me so far, haven't had any real problems - in almost 3 years, just usual maintenance stuff (brake pads, etc). I average high 20's in DC stop-and-go traffic, but up to mid 30's on day long highway drives. I've never noticed any choppiness on long drives - and I've pulled 12-13 hours in it. It was a very good "dog" car - easy to move stuff around for Murray (Rest in Peace) to get the whole back seat to himself, and still fill up the trunk.

  • Allan Sampson Level 10 Level 10 (122,145 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 5:45 PM (in response to DIMAGENIA)

    As far as  I can tell, flash is not preinstalled with any new computer, but it´s one of the first plugins to install in your browser first run...

     

    Then you've never owned a Mac or never purchased a new Mac. Up until recently - before Snow Leopard started being pre-installed with every new Mac purchase, Flash shipped as part of the system as in being pre-installed on a Mac. No longer.

     

    but we are paying a high price, because some years has passed since the release of first ios devices, and HTML5 is not taking the market yet, neither in a near future...

     

    Who is we? I'm not paying a high price - I'm not paying any price.

     

    http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/sotw---on-android-flash-is-55-ht ml5-100.html

     

    http://www.infoworld.com/t/html5/say-goodbye-flash-html5-winning-305

     

    Can I ask if you have Flash installed in any of your computers now?

     

    It is installed on my Mac but I have ClickToFlash installed which prevents Flash from running automatically. If there is some content that I want or need to see that requires Flash along with having the temperature of my MBP increase due to significantly increased processor activity along with hearing the fan kick on, I can activate it for that content only.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 6:49 PM (in response to PogoPossum)

    PogoPossum wrote:

     

    Were they? I bought a used 07 in the spring of 09, when my Civic DX died. I know that the manuals for the 07 and 08 are identical, but the 09 had some changes...

    Well, although this is exceedingly rare, perhaps I'm wrong. 

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,010 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 6:49 PM (in response to PogoPossum)

    PogoPossum wrote:

     

    I like it. Very reliable car for me so far, haven't had any real problems - in almost 3 years, just usual maintenance stuff (brake pads, etc). I average high 20's in DC stop-and-go traffic, but up to mid 30's on day long highway drives. I've never noticed any choppiness on long drives - and I've pulled 12-13 hours in it. It was a very good "dog" car - easy to move stuff around for Murray (Rest in Peace) to get the whole back seat to himself, and still fill up the trunk.

    I still have my original pads/linings but that's normal for me.  I figure on pads at 90,000 and linings close to never.  I rarely use the brakes because they only slow down the car and I then have to hit the gas to get the speed back up!

     

    Perhaps I wouldn't notice the choppiness were it not for the fact that my wife's Accord is smooth as silk on the highway.

  • TommySaxondale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 10:02 PM (in response to Allan Sampson)

    This is true. I have a Mid 2009 Mac Pro quad core, and Flash is the only thing that causes Safari to crash. Watching Hulu can often be tears before bedtime. Now Safari doesn't crash, but Flash bugs out and I often need to refresh.

     

    It never worked all that well on Windows. Would crash maybe 1 in 10 times. Crash the system! And a reboot on that corporate laptop took 4 minutes, with all the encrpytion and crap they load on. I would just read a book instead... But it always gets my blood pressure up. You know? You want to relax and watch a show on Hulu, and it's bugging out. I have to admit, the Hulu app on the iPad is the best Hulu experience, and it is buggy by iOS standards. Something like GarageBand is über complicated, and works like a charm (just make sure to turn off hand gestures, as if you try to go all Kieth Emerson on the rock organ, you could swipe to the next app!). All these games like Infinty Blade are tight and flawless. They are not buggy or crashy. Sorry, but Flash games suck. Who cares about Flash games when you are on iOS?!?

     

    Netflix worked fine, as it uses Silverlight. Never crashed, looked great, nice UI. I will check out that software to block automatic intstantiation of Flash.

     

    HTML 5 or not, the ability to do quite sophiticated multimedia using the DOM and JavaScript has been available for some time. It can do far more than Flash. It runs in the whole browser. Check out JQuery examples. I see all the great sites using it, and both Google and Microsoft contribute to this open source project. There are JQuery games and visual effects that would make beer company website designers weep with joy. It is widely used, but since it is not an obtrusive plugin (there are JQuery plugins, but that is a reference to the code components, not the type of plugins that get installed in the browser). The best thing is that JQuery is cross browser compatible -- the code you write works in all browsers. And most multimedia folks who are afraid of losing their Adobe crutch, can rest assured that JQuery is so easy, even people who fell for Android can develop with it...

     

    http://jquery.com/

     

    This isn't the future, but the present. You may not notice it, because it is not a plugin. You do not install anything. It is everwhere. It is more prevelant than Flash. Google uses it. Microsoft uses it. Tons of professional sites do. This is not the only JavaScript/DOM toolkit -- Dojo and GWT are the other biguns. But JQuery is becoming the standard. It doesn't matter, you can use multiple toolkits, libraries, yadda yadda. But JQuery makes Flash seem like garbage. JQuery can go beyond Flash and control the whole browser, not just run in some small sandboxed panel.

     

    Furthermore, Google Docs was developed with JavaScript (albeit, generated on the server side with GWT). Can Flash create a word processor, spreadsheet, or calendar application? I checked out the Adope FLEX/AIR apps. They suck. Slow, buggy, and useless.

     

    JavaScript and the DOM, even without HTML5 can do so much. JQuery is so easy, even a chid can develop with it. Rabid Flash support is only from people who have perceived this issue as Apple's achilles heel, and relentlessly harp on it. It is not. I would much rather not have Flash, but instead have QuickTime and watch the content on my TV. I rarely ever watch video on my ipad itself. Why? I have a nice flatscreen TV, and I don't have to hold anything. Flash cannot do AirPlay, and in my opinion, the video player should belong to the operating system. I hate that Flash is forced on me on so many sites when I use my Mac. I cannot play them on my TV. Flash is buggy, QuickTime is stable.

     

    For me, AirPlay is a huge F'ing Joe Biden deal. When I contemplated getting a media computer, my choice narrowed down to a Mac Mini, or iPad 2 + Apple TV2. I chose the latter, and couldn't be happier. If everything was Flash based, it would have really been quite a fly in the ointment. The whole idea of hooking up your computer to your TV and fiddling with a wireless keyboad *****. The thing I love about AirPlay is that you can control the video with the tiny Apple Remote. And yeah, if you have a MacBook, you can also AirPlay onto AppleTV. I guess with Flash you could screen share onto AppleTV but then the remote won't work with Flash controls. See? The integration of the system doesn't work well with Flash. Apple users get why media playback should be up to the OS and not some lame plugin. It's because the Apple ones are much better, can do things like AirPlay, are stable, etc. Apple is a system, not just a tablet. Everything just works, and works together. A browser plugin like Flash doesn't fit in to the system, and video payback is important. I don't want Flash. I want QuickTime. Why do you think I buy Apple products? So I can use Adope crap?!? Heck no!

     

    Flash has been in demise for some time. What are these great sites that use it? Hulu? There's an app for that. Comedy Central? App. Adult Swim? App. I have not run into very many obstacles, as most sites will offer their content as h.264 video. If not, they have an app. Sports? Apple TV has everything except NFL. I am not a sports nut, but there's probably quite a few apps for that...

     

    To the troll -- I don't think you really have an ipad 2. You would notice the substitution of h.264 video for most sites that use Flash. Even PornHub does it. Grow up. Stop lying.

     

    I have Photon and rarely use it. The need does not come up. There is either h.264 video, an app, or a free podcast. You do not have an ipad or watch sports on Photon and then an Android browser with Flash. You have proven yourself to be a pathological liar, with you lies about the demise of Flash that even Adobe Does not claim. Prove me wrong. Let me see a YouTube video with your iPad 2 and Photon display sports video next to your Android browser doing the same.

     

    Adobe is not going to make Flash for mobile, and it is not Apple's fault. Your conspiracy theory is not convincing. We all know the Illuminati are keeping Flash off iOS to keep the aliens buried under the face on Mars at Sedonia at bay.

     

    What a nutter!

  • fsd717 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Apr 5, 2012 10:06 PM (in response to cherylfromirwin)

    Unless its jailbroken, then it's big NO for iPad.

  • vazandrew Level 6 Level 6 (12,970 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 7:08 AM (in response to fsd717)

    It may be possible in that scenario but it's a very poor experience and that's the point

  • duderRama Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 7:43 AM (in response to TommySaxondale)

    Anyone willing to sacrifice a little freedom, for a little added security, will lose both, and deserve neither.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,450 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 7:45 AM (in response to duderRama)

    Somehow, I don't think this is the sort of situation Franklin had in mind. However, you finally get points for being a little interesting.

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,830 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 7:46 AM (in response to Meg St._Clair)

    But I would have given him more points for using quotation marks and properly attributing the quote.

  • Sdotfitz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 6, 2012 9:12 AM (in response to TommySaxondale)

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    My ipad 2 my Samsung Captivate. Here is both performing the task of streaming sports with flash. Nothing was on this early so I chose espn I know there is a watch espn app which I have but that does not work for the NHL I stream the NBA I stream or the NFL I stream. This does. Everything I just said was true and here is proof.

     

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