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Roger Wilmut1

Q: Claims of Rosetta working

A poster on the Macintouch forum writes:

 

'I accidentally installed Rosetta on Lion again on a different machine, MBP8,2.

It again works OK!

The RosettaNonGrata file is the handler-file that prompts 'Launch of "%@" failed: the PowerPC architecture is no longer supported', when a program tries to use Rosetta in Lion; whereas in SL it used to prompt to download Rosetta if it wasn't installed.

Re-installing Rosetta in Lion by adding the SL "translate" binary to the use/libexec/oah folder changes the default Rosetta handler file back to translate from RosettaNonGrata

My 10.7 systems now respond to the Terminal sudo sysctl kern.exec.archhandler.powerpc challenge with

kern.exec.archhandler.powerpc: /usr/libexec/oah/translate

So Rosetta is installed in Lion and is my default PowerPC architecture handler '

 

I don't understand a word of it. Is he deluding himself/trolling/a berk? Or has he found a magic solution?

24 inch iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.7), 13 inch Macbook Pro (10.6.7)

Posted on Aug 5, 2011 8:36 AM

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  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Dec 16, 2011 6:33 AM in response to EljefeWappo
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    Dec 16, 2011 6:33 AM in response to EljefeWappo

    That didn't have anything to do with it. FCS2 is a Universal app. It would have installed anyway. Rosetta does not work in Lion.

  • by mulligans missus,

    mulligans missus mulligans missus Dec 16, 2011 3:55 PM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Dec 16, 2011 3:55 PM in response to Kurt Lang

     

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Dec 16, 2011 4:11 PM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Dec 16, 2011 4:11 PM in response to Kurt Lang

    Kurt Lang wrote:

     

    That didn't have anything to do with it. FCS2 is a Universal app. It would have installed anyway. Rosetta does not work in Lion.

     

    Actually, my FCE3.5 would not install in Lion on mine even though it is a universal app - its installer is not universal, it is PPC. I tested several methods:

     

    one was an attempt to install from the disks (failed with warning about PPC apps not working)

    one was to manually drag every file over (worked); and the last

    one was to start over with a clean Lion install, use the SL disk to extract/install Rosetta (worked), followed by installing from the install disks (worked).

  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Dec 16, 2011 6:10 PM in response to babowa
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    Dec 16, 2011 6:10 PM in response to babowa
    its installer is not universal, it is PPC.

    Ah, that's different. Why would a company do that? Like the handful of Office 2008 disks out there also with a PPC only installer. How dumb is that?

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Dec 16, 2011 7:03 PM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Dec 16, 2011 7:03 PM in response to Kurt Lang
    Why would a company do that?

     

    Can't answer that since we're not allowed to speculate.......

     

    P.S. After that successful Rosetta install, I tried to drag over Appleworks - that refused to work (maybe since there was no installer as such).

  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Dec 17, 2011 8:07 AM in response to babowa
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    Dec 17, 2011 8:07 AM in response to babowa
    I tried to drag over Appleworks - that refused to work

    Probably not. I have the last version of AppleWorks on my backup drive as an installed copy. It was on a bundled software package which I installed and then backed that up. If I just drag the installed app onto a drive which can run it, it starts right up.

     

    Getting back to FCS, I had 1.5, which was the first Universal version, skipped 2 and upgraded to 3. It's entirely possible that all three had a PPC only installer and you just don't realize it.

     

    Which brings us back to EljefeWappo's statement. I've tried Rosetta both ways in Lion; installing Lion over a clean Snow Leopard install and then reinstalling Rosetta from the SL disk, and installing Lion on an erased drive followed by Rosetta from the SL disk. Neither way will run any PPC software.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Dec 17, 2011 8:18 AM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Dec 17, 2011 8:18 AM in response to Kurt Lang
    Which brings us back to EljefeWappo's statement. I've tried Rosetta both ways in Lion; installing Lion over a clean Snow Leopard install and then reinstalling Rosetta from the SL disk, and installing Lion on an erased drive followed by Rosetta from the SL disk. Neither way will run any PPC software.

     

    Agreed.

     

    Ditto for Appleworks - it works on my SL partition, but will not on the Lion partition.

  • by Steve Miles,

    Steve Miles Steve Miles Jan 29, 2012 12:55 PM in response to babowa
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    Jan 29, 2012 12:55 PM in response to babowa

    babowa wrote:

     

    one was to start over with a clean Lion install, use the SL disk to extract/install Rosetta (worked), followed by installing from the install disks (worked).

     

    When you put the disk in Lion, is there a check box option to choose to just install Rosetta? I have the install disk for Leopard but I don't see any option to just install a program called "Rosetta".

     

    I'm trying to install my old FCP Studio 2 on a brand new Lion computer. Can you please describe the steps you used to install Rosetta from the install disk. I'll find an install disk for Snow Leopard if I have too. Thanks.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Jan 29, 2012 2:00 PM in response to Steve Miles
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    Jan 29, 2012 2:00 PM in response to Steve Miles

    Unfortunately, I did this last August or so, so memory is a bit hazy on the individual steps (I can barely remember what I had for dinner yesterday  ;

     

    the easiest (but requiring the most "manual labor") was dragging every file over from a successfully installed copy on my SL partition. For that, I followed the "uninstall FCE" in reverse, found the files, copied and parked them in the very same spots on Lion; uninstall steps here:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TA38198?viewlocale=en_US

     

    that worked like a charm.

     

    As for the Rosetta aided Installer: no, there was no option to install Rosetta dialogue - simply something that it won't run because it's PPC. I know there was a thread here about extracting Rosetta from an SL disk (where to find it), but I don't have a link for it; you should also be able to use Pacifist. I followed the instructions in the thread and I'm sorry I didn't keep the link, but searching for Rosetta here should get you there. In any case, it installed successfully and then I used the FCE installer.

     

    I would try my first method above - that would appear to be the safest route.

  • by MlchaelLAX,

    MlchaelLAX MlchaelLAX Apr 4, 2012 5:08 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1
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    Apr 4, 2012 5:08 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

    Roger, seems to be the only way to have Rosetta (within Snow Leopard) running concurrently with Lion and not having to Dual Boot - Snow Leopard in Parallels 7 in Lion.

     

    This allows me 24/7/365 access to Quicken Deluxe 2002 and other PPC applications, as needed:

    Lion+Snow_Leopard_in_Parallels.jpg

  • by spiritofdiscovery,

    spiritofdiscovery spiritofdiscovery Apr 9, 2012 3:16 PM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    Apr 9, 2012 3:16 PM in response to MlchaelLAX

    Hi MIchael,

     

    Could you please let us know how you installed Snow Leopard in Parallels 7 running on Lion? AFAIK, Parallels 7 only supports the Server version of Snow Leopard (which costs several hundred dollars; no comment on that).

     

    The various proposed solutions (found searching the net) to install SL in Parallels 7 running on Lion all seem a bit unstable, though I have not yet implemented any of them. I am hoping your solution was straight forward.

     

    Cheers,

    Sasha

  • by Topher Kessler,

    Topher Kessler Topher Kessler Apr 9, 2012 3:57 PM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    Apr 9, 2012 3:57 PM in response to MlchaelLAX

    Initial support of some virtualization software in OS X Lion allowed for Snow Leopard virtualization, but this breaks Apple's EULA and the software was quickly updated to prevent such virtualization. While one could probably hack the software to get it to run, it will not be available for the average user to simply try.

  • by MlchaelLAX,

    MlchaelLAX MlchaelLAX Apr 9, 2012 4:28 PM in response to spiritofdiscovery
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    Apr 9, 2012 4:28 PM in response to spiritofdiscovery

    asmystiq wrote:

     

    Hi MIchael,

     

    Could you please let us know how you installed Snow Leopard in Parallels 7 running on Lion? AFAIK, Parallels 7 only supports the Server version of Snow Leopard (which costs several hundred dollars; no comment on that).

     

    The various proposed solutions (found searching the net) to install SL in Parallels 7 running on Lion all seem a bit unstable, though I have not yet implemented any of them. I am hoping your solution was straight forward.

     

    Cheers,

    Sasha

    Sasha:

     

    It works and it's stable!  Try this:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/16247806#16247806

     

    If you run into any problems let me know.  My nickname at America Online.

     

    Topher:   Are you just trying to be "helpful" to someone in need, or can you be more definitive with your "road blocks."  See:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/18039235#18039235

     

    and

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/18039443#18039443

  • by spiritofdiscovery,

    spiritofdiscovery spiritofdiscovery Apr 9, 2012 4:50 PM in response to Topher Kessler
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    Apr 9, 2012 4:50 PM in response to Topher Kessler

    Thank you Topher, that helps clarify the issue for me.

  • by spiritofdiscovery,

    spiritofdiscovery spiritofdiscovery Apr 9, 2012 4:51 PM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    Apr 9, 2012 4:51 PM in response to MlchaelLAX

    Thank you MIchael, I appreciate the answer and the links. I will try your suggestions and will let you know if there are any issues!

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