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  • alto2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 11, 2012 2:58 PM (in response to petermac87)

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    Firstly there are many who don't need a fix and secondly why come to the Lion Forums when you are running Snow Leopard and wanted nothing to do with helping Apple when, as you say, they asked you. Don't rely on everybody else to figure out a fix to your issue and then come here complaining.

     

    Good Luck

     

    Pete

     

    Well, Pete, since you always tell us how you haven't had a problem on your 5 MBPs, it seems to me the same question holds for you. Especially if you're going to be rude to someone who was not only noting that a part of a mentioned possible fix did make a difference to them, but also commiserating with those who are left with battery issues. I'm pretty sure marysplacestudio wasn't the rude one here.

  • macmeck Calculating status...
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:08 PM (in response to petermac87)

    So as this is not your problem, the problem doesn't exist?

    The problem is real: Of course it is! I've been an Macintosh user since 1986. For the love of God!

    Is Apple becoming a too big company?

    I still remind people in airports looking at me with my Powerbook 140... not now!!!

    Apple will do well not forgetting the values ​​that brought them here

    Me myself I'm very disappointed at this point and I had never felt this way before with Apple.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:23 PM (in response to macmeck)

    macmeck wrote:

     

    So as this is not your problem, the problem doesn't exist?

    The problem is real: Of course it is! I've been an Macintosh user since 1986. For the love of God!

    Is Apple becoming a too big company?

    I still remind people in airports looking at me with my Powerbook 140... not now!!!

    Apple will do well not forgetting the values ​​that brought them here

    Me myself I'm very disappointed at this point and I had never felt this way before with Apple.

    And I have my opinion. And Yes, Apple has become one of the biggest companies on the planet and so many more people have been buying them. Maybe you could suggest to them to downgrade the company? Your days of using one as a status symbol are over, especially with the iPad being one of the most purchased and 'must have' items on the planet.

     

    Times change my friend. Some people will have problems, most won't.

     

    Pete

  • macmeck Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 11, 2012 3:30 PM (in response to petermac87)

    Hi Pete, and I'm happy about it. Of course I have an iPad! And I love it.

    The only thing I want is my MacBook battery back to 8 hours as promised when purchased.

    Well, in fact, I've got now 8 hours. But not in Lion!

    There's a problem to be resolved my friend.

  • Krismus1111 Calculating status...
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    Apr 11, 2012 7:01 PM (in response to marysplacestudio)

    Thanks for checking in on us marysplacestudio.  :)  would you mind me asking how you switched back to SL?  I have both an install CD and a time capsule backup and through all these forums I am still unclear as to which one would give the best outcome.  I'm on a mid-2009 17" mbp for those who may want to know.

     

    And of course I'm not getting in the middle here, but my 2 cents are that I would personally be very much appeased for apple to simply say, " hey guys we realize there's a problem and we're working to get it fixed."  Communication is key to customer service. Right now we're all on this forum or many other posts like it just wondering what is going on at Apple.   Other than this an some silliness with my iPhone I think Apple is a great company.  But what I think about the company doesn't make my mbp stay powered on longer and usable without a cord like it did before.  Odd issue and if it can't be fixed, then it can't, and by golly I'll understand, but Apple be honest with us and let us know.

  • mojo98 Calculating status...
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    Apr 12, 2012 7:46 AM (in response to Michael Empric)

    same problem:

     

    • MacBook pro 8.1 (late 2011)
    • 2.4 GHz intel core i5
    • 4Gb ram
    • lion 10.7.3

     

    i got this macbook less than 2 weeks ago, and i've calibrated it once or twice, but my macbook struggles to last more than an hour with some light browsing and low brightness, keyboard backlight off, bluetooth off and background applications all closed.

    im really frustrated at this considering how expensive this product is and its much longer advertised time.

     

     

  • marysplacestudio Level 2 Level 2 (385 points)
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    Apr 12, 2012 10:13 AM (in response to petermac87)

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    marysplacestudio wrote:

     

    So I'm surprised you folks don't have a fix yet. Until then, I'm staying far, far away from Lion.

    Firstly there are many who don't need a fix and secondly why come to the Lion Forums when you are running Snow Leopard and wanted nothing to do with helping Apple when, as you say, they asked you. Don't rely on everybody else to figure out a fix to your issue and then come here complaining.

     

    Good Luck

     

    Pete

     

    Hi Pete,

     

    The reason I come to this thread is twofold: one is that I bought and tried to run Lion on three separate MBPs last year. The battery life was so poor, that I returned each of them before the return policy expired. So I was thoroughly involved in this forum last year. I bought instead a 2011 MBP that could still run Snow Leopard.

     

    Secondly, I still would like to move to Lion since there is a piece of software I need, but it has only been developed for Lion. But I won't do that at the expense of losing portability, which is why I have a laptop in the first place.

     

    And I do apologize for my comment above which, I see, you have taken the wrong way. I did not mean to say that I'm surprised that you readers don't have a fix created by yourselves. Rather, I simply intended to say that I am surprised that you don't have a fix provided by Apple yet for you—or me.

     

    Cheers.

  • marysplacestudio Level 2 Level 2 (385 points)
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    Apr 12, 2012 10:22 AM (in response to Krismus1111)

    Krismus1111 wrote:

     

    Thanks for checking in on us marysplacestudio.    would you mind me asking how you switched back to SL?

     

    Hi Krismus,

     

    I bought a MBP with Lion pre-installed last year (actually bought 3). But the battery life was very poor. I tried to switch back to Snow Leopard, but learned quite fast that the hardware did not permit this. So, I returned the computers within their return policy period and purchased a MBP that could still run Leopard. Sorry... I know that doesn't help you.

     

    As my post expressed a couple days ago, I am rather surprised that Apple has not come up with a solution. The gfx card switching software does help; I've also noticed that running software that uses flash, like Firefox and Adobe products, also diminishes battery life by almost half.

     

    Apple recently got into trouble advertising iPad 3 as offering 4g connectivity in Europe, which it does not yet. They had to change their advertising. I think Apple is walking a thin line right now with their battery claims under Lion because you virtually have to use only Mail or perhaps Safari with the screen quite dimmed to get anywhere close to the battery life they claim. And even then, I was still getting minimal battery life.

     

    Personally, I'm looking foward to the day when a solar flare knocks out the internet and I can drive over my computer with a 4x4. O happy day.

  • Courcoul Level 6 Level 6 (11,180 points)
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    Apr 12, 2012 12:45 PM (in response to marysplacestudio)

    On a related note tied to this thread, installed the Battery Health app that a fellow poster recommended. Only thing I missed from CoconutBattery was the ability to save the health history, but the power consumption graph looked cute.

     

    Then someone else recommended the gfxCardStatus utility, and I did that too. Lo and behold, much was my surprise to discover that Battery Health was forcing the Radeon GPU to come on instead of relying on the Intel integrated GPU for a lower energy footprint. So beware. BTW, CoconutBattery, with no snazzy graphs, doesn't do GPU switching.

     

    On the thread subject, I too am saddled with the fat cat. Previous MBP, last of the non-unibodies, croaked last Dec., only way to get an antiglare MBP was to purchase a customized unit that came saddled with the beast. Might mention that I never had the chance to truly meet the snowy cat; bought the retail disk but never got a round to it before the Mac died. Current hardware does about 5 hours, tops. EFI upgrade only stabilized the max charge capability the battery reports, before it was jumping wildly all over the place.

  • hyndman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 13, 2012 1:32 PM (in response to Michael Empric)

    I don't know if this has been discussed previously but my new MacbookPro 13" Late 2011 started exhibiting the same battery issue. I could not get it to keep more than a 2 to 2.5 hour battery life. This was very strange as my coworkers who had an early 2011 and a late 2011 i7 were getting 5+ hours.

     

     

    You must be running something in the background they said... I kept on saying that I didn't know why.

     

    I would search the forums and find others who like me were experiencing terrible battery life around 2 hours.

     

    I just accepted it was what it was and I would have to either go to the genius guys or wait for a fix.

     

    OK so now let's discusss what happened today. A colleague of mine and mysef had a business meeting on Webex and I was hosting. He said, let me look at your MAC activity monitor. See what is going on.

     

    So we opened up activity moniter and clicked to get to the CPU. We clicked to sort by percentage with the highest shown.

     

    All of a sudden there was an activity grabbing 99% of my CPU. Now I can't remember the full name of it but it was an HP activity which turned out to be a scanner application fom HP which I had installed about 3 months ago. I think it is just the standard HP scanner software which probably supports multiple scanners.

     

    So we decided we would just run the uninstaller.

     

    We got rid of the software/drivers and I let my macbookpro charge back to 100%..

     

    Once it had charged I then went and unhooked the power... it went and calculated.....

     

    Boom!!!!!!    5:30 hours remaining. Then 6:10 remaining..

     

    So in my experience double check you do not have any HP scanner utiliyu installed and eating away at your CPU. This killed my mac.

     

    Just soooo dang happy I found out why finally and pehaps this might just help some others of you out there who may be unaware!

     

    Good luck!

  • hyndman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 13, 2012 5:33 PM (in response to Michael Empric)

    Just to add to what I just wrote I just pulled this from a google serach on the HP scanner issue.

     

    "Some of you who are using HP Scanners may already know this issue/solution but perhaps not ....

     

    I just solved a nagging problem with my MacBook Pro and thought I'd share this info in case anyone else has similar problems.

     

    The battery life on my MacBook Pro went way down some months ago. I thought the battery was dying and bought a new one however there was no improvement. Also another irritation has been that the heat coming off the MacBook Pro was high enough to make it uncomfortable in my lap.

     

    Yesterday I checked out my Activity Monitor (Applications/Utilities) for the first time in a couple of years and I saw that my CPU was maxed out. The culprit was "HP Shortcut Manager Startup". I googled this program and discovered that this is a fairly common problem among Mac users worldwide. The HP programmers were sloppy in writing the code for HP Scanner software.

     

    The HP Scanner software loads at startup and then CONTINUOUSLY checks your HP scanner to see if you've pressed any of the "shortcut buttons" on the scanner (i.e. the hardware buttons on the scanner lid). It does this whether you are using the scanner or not and even when you aren't connected to a scanner. If you have HP scanner software installed, it's constantly looking for these hardware buttons and it maxes out your CPU, draining the battery of the laptop in a couple of hours, keeping the computer hot, and generally slowing down things.

     

    The solution for this problem is:

     

    1- Remove (delete) "HP Shortcut Manager Startup" from your login items (System Preferences/Accounts/Administrator/Login Items)

     

    2- Restart your computer

     

    2- Open your hard disk and go to (Library/Application Support/ Hewlett-Packard/HP ScanJet Scanner) and delete "HP Shortcut Manager Startup".

     

    Everything should (continue to) work normally as usual regarding using your HP Scanner.

     

    From what I read on the internet, HP has been aware of this problem in their scanner software for Mac OS since early 2010 but have yet to fix the problem and current HP Scanners you buy today still contain this bug.

     

    I discovered that some Mac Users won't use HP software (or HP hardware) at all because of sloppy programming for Mac OS. An alternative scanner software for HP and other scanners is VueScan, a shareware program easily found on the net.

     

    This experience also reminds me how important it is to check out my Activity Monitor every so often to see what programs are accessing my CPU.

     

    Anyway this solved my main issue with my MacBook Pro and I occasionally see complaints about heat and battery life on the web .... so I thought I would share this bit of trivia in case any TV members are experiencing similar problems. "

     

    Hope this helps any that were not aware of this issue..

     

    Now my MBR rocks.. and doesn't burn my lap... thanks HP!!!!

  • bew1234 Calculating status...
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    Apr 14, 2012 5:23 PM (in response to Michael Empric)

    Process MDMT was eating 40% of my CPU 15" Early 2010 MBP 4gb 500Gb HDD. This is the local snapshot process for Time Machine. I killed it (permanently) and batt life up, heat down. Still not the 7 hours I had in SL though.

  • bew1234 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 14, 2012 10:30 PM (in response to Michael Empric)

    Well

     

    I did an SMC reset. The Control+Option and Power button one DID NOT WORK so I tried shutting down, removing magsafe, and holding power button for 5 seconds and it has worked! Battery meter has returned to 6:20 remaining instead of 2:30 on a full charge. Amazing and mysterious.  See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2718879?start=0&tstart=0 for details.

  • NightNinjaPDX Level 2 Level 2 (255 points)
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    Apr 14, 2012 11:36 PM (in response to Michael Empric)

    same issue with my MacBook Pro (15", 2.0GHz, 8GB Ram, 750GB 7200rpm HDD & 500GB 5400rpm HDD using OWC Data Doubler). 

  • alto2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 15, 2012 12:33 PM (in response to bew1234)

    bew1234,

     

    My question for you is: did it STAY at that battery value? When I reset my SMC, it came up with a number similar to yours when I started up, but it didn't stay that way for too long.

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