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  • 15. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    ezppl Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I understand that the hardware isn't powerful enough to run the latest features of the evolving iOS. However the OS should be adaptive enough to allow such basic functionality such a s sync/contacts sharing etc. on hardware which isn't latest. Basically the constant OS updates methodology is annihilating hardware which works perfectly fine for many applications and users. I don't care about lots of the new features in iOS. I just want to sync basic information.

     

    By bloating the OS and having it demand a higher and higher spec hardware platform is bad design IMHO. I ran OS9 machines of wildly different specs for many, many years. Then came OSX. Then came Intel. Then came iOS and Intel and iCloud. Sigh. I'm just expressing my annoyance at having to retire my iPod touch for no reason other than it cannot run the latest features of an operating system - I cannot sync my contacts and calendars, which is one of the main reasons I got it (I used to run Palm devices). I still use my original GameBoy and my excellent Sony Minidisk - they work as well now as the day I bought them!

     

    Apple have a habit nowadays of punishing early adopters and those who refuse to buy a new computer/gadget every 2 years. And annoying those of us who care about over-consumption, and the bloat and excess of retiring perferctly good hardware early in its life.

  • 16. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    vazandrew Level 6 Level 6 (14,045 points)

    The iPod will still function, and you can sync and use it as you have been. There are many who still use older hardware. It is almost a 3.5 year old device, and mobile evolution has been quite fast. It won't be different with others.

     

    My computer is over 3 years old and is running the latest OS, I know others who have older machines running it as well.

     

    This is technology, devices get new features and new OS' are released which demand better processors.

  • 17. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    Will.i.am.s Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    soo will there ever be an update for 4.2.1?

  • 18. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    vazandrew Level 6 Level 6 (14,045 points)

    Correct, you cannot update the 2nd gen. past 4.2.1

  • 19. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    ~K~ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i agree!

     

    this is totally evil of Apple. i have PC's that are 8 years old that still happily update everything including the OS.

    if you make people spend an over inflated amount on a product, the least you can do is allow them to use it until it expires. my itouch is becoming worthless even though it is for the most part (battery *****) fine because it cant be updated. What a huge waste. There should be a penalty for having practices that create so much environmental waste. And no i wont spend another $400 just to buy something else that will be out of date in a year. SHAME!

  • 20. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    Will.i.am.s Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    its upsetting because i cant even beat my friends temple run highscore! it just runs so slowly, ive a small update that could sort this problem out would be nice.

  • 21. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    vazandrew Level 6 Level 6 (14,045 points)

    Oh please, mobile technology evolves at a much faster rate. You would be in a similar position with other devices. No one is stopping you from using your iPod.

     

    The 3rd Gen is over 2 years old and can be updated

  • 22. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    Will.i.am.s wrote:

     

    its upsetting because i cant even beat my friends temple run highscore! it just runs so slowly, ive a small update that could sort this problem out would be nice.

    OMG!!!! The world is surely comming to an end!  Quick!   Sell every thing, dress up in bed sheets, and head for the nearest mountain top!

  • 23. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    meeerrz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Okay so I have a 2nd gen ipod and I tried to restore it as I'm giving it away but when I tried to do it itunes said that the restore failed and my ipod was frozen on the home screen. None of the buttons would work so I let the battery die and now whenever I connect it to my pc or try to charge it using an adapter the screen continuously changes from the apple logo to the charging icon and back again. If anyone knows how to fix it or if its now a lost cause, any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

  • 24. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    Will.i.am.s Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    oh alright i didnt realise that this ipod thing was this much of a problem for you. 

  • 25. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    Theappleteam Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The software can't run on a second because the software needs a mic and a camera control and if your second iPod do t have it you can't upgrade it and btw they have stopped supporti g the iPod 2 for about 2 years now

     

     

    iOS 4.3.4 Software Update

    CoreGraphics

     

    Available for: iOS 3.0 through 4.3.3 for iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 (GSM model), iOS 3.1 through 4.3.3 for iPod touch (3rd generation) and later, iOS 3.2 through 4.3.3 for iPad

     

    Impact: Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution

     

    Description: A buffer overflow exists in FreeType's handling of TrueType fonts. Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution.

     

    CVE-ID

     

    CVE-2010-3855

     

    CoreGraphics

     

    Available for: iOS 3.0 through 4.3.3 for iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 (GSM model), iOS 3.1 through 4.3.3 for iPod touch (3rd generation) and later, iOS 3.2 through 4.3.3 for iPad

     

    Impact: Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution

     

    Description: A signedness issue exists in FreeType's handling of Type 1 fonts. Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution.

     

    CVE-ID

     

    CVE-2011-0226 : comex

     

    IOMobileFrameBuffer

     

    Available for: iOS 3.0 through 4.3.3 for iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 (GSM model), iOS 3.1 through 4.3.3 for iPod touch (3rd generation) and later, iOS 3.2 through 4.3.3 for iPad

     

    Impact: Malicious code running as the user may gain system privileges

     

    Description: An invalid type conversion issue exists in the use of IOMobileFrameBuffer queueing primitives, which may allow malicious code running as the user to gain system privileges.

     

    CVE-ID

     

    CVE-2011-0227 : comex

     

     

     

     

     

    I do not work for apple and do not own

     

    All this

     

    <iOS 4.3.4 Software Update

    CoreGraphics

     

    Available for: iOS 3.0 through 4.3.3 for iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 (GSM model), iOS 3.1 through 4.3.3 for iPod touch (3rd generation) and later, iOS 3.2 through 4.3.3 for iPad

     

    Impact: Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution

     

    Description: A buffer overflow exists in FreeType's handling of TrueType fonts. Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution.

     

    CVE-ID

     

    CVE-2010-3855

     

    CoreGraphics

     

    Available for: iOS 3.0 through 4.3.3 for iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 (GSM model), iOS 3.1 through 4.3.3 for iPod touch (3rd generation) and later, iOS 3.2 through 4.3.3 for iPad

     

    Impact: Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution

     

    Description: A signedness issue exists in FreeType's handling of Type 1 fonts. Viewing a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution.

     

    CVE-ID

     

    CVE-2011-0226 : comex

     

    IOMobileFrameBuffer

     

    Available for: iOS 3.0 through 4.3.3 for iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 (GSM model), iOS 3.1 through 4.3.3 for iPod touch (3rd generation) and later, iOS 3.2 through 4.3.3 for iPad

     

    Impact: Malicious code running as the user may gain system privileges

     

    Description: An invalid type conversion issue exists in the use of IOMobileFrameBuffer queueing primitives, which may allow malicious code running as the user to gain system privileges.

     

    CVE-ID

     

    CVE-2011-0227 : comex>

  • 26. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    Manospistol1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    You can only reach 4.2.1 in 2nd gen ipod touch

    Ipod touch 3rd and 4th gen can reach iOS 5

    You can always sell you old and buy a new one

    Personal experience:my brother has a 3rd gen ipod and can run almost all new apps that are for iOS 5

    my 2nd gen ipod can only run old or specific apps

  • 27. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    EToft Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Though the fragmentation of the Android market is unsetteling, his whole 2nd Gen debacle has convinced me to buy an ANDROID based tablet rather than an iPad.  Why? Android is an Open Source system.  If you have just a little tech mojo, or the capability and willingness to learn, you can hack it to your hearts desire without interference from the maker. 

     

    My wife got me a 8 GB touch 2 years ago and it was sold as a 3rd gen touch...according to Apple, it is not their fault that the store had it marked wrong.  It was indeed a NEW VERSION of the 2nd gen device...complete with a different case (slightly thinner and flatter...barely perceptible...Serial number is etched in a different location...etc) from the original 2nd gen, and new firmware, and a new communications processor that now included blue tooth which was enabled eventually for these new configurations (thank you Apple).  So yes it is a different flavor of the 2nd gen, and also has a different firmware revision (Hackers who jailbreak them will know that this is the notorious "MC" version of the firmware which requires a slightly different process to JB.)  I know these differences are there because my wife has the original version 2nd gen.

     

    It's very interesting that Apple released this version of the touch at the same time as the 3rd gen 16 and 32GB models, and that Apple made no apparent effort to properly educate retailers and prevent them from mis-marketing the 8GB device as also being a 3rd Gen.  NOTE: Since I was not the one to make the purchase, I never bothered to do the research it until  the OS failed to upgrade past 4.2.1...I was, and still am satisfied with its functionality and use it almost every day...that is...asside from the fact that it cannot be upgraded, and new applications are incompatible.

     

    That brings me to another point...At least 20% percent of the iOS market is on version a 4.x.x version. My assumption is that those people are "stuck" with a 2nd gen touch that cannot be upgraded. If I'm not mistaken, 20% is still considered to be a statistically significant portion of a market.  Unfortunately this same article...posted by an IOS developer...shows that developers are (understandably) itching to shed support for the 4.x.x OS as fast as possible.  You see, they either have to support multiple OS versions or cede 20% of the possible market.  If Apple continues to obsolesce their devices prematurely through OS abandonment, I would argue that developers are going to end up supporting more iOS flavors rather than less as would be their desire.

     

    The end game is that developers don't want to support old OS's, and if Apple can't support their designs for any more than 2 years, then what is the point of this "insanely good" design that they are so **** proud of?  Proprietary systems, when sufficiently supported, are a beautiful thing...they just work...and keep on working.  Just look at the old Mac's.  Apple made the new OS's work with those old systems for as long as they could.  But I fear that those days of long lived support are in their twilight years if not already pushing up dasies.  The obvious downside is that the proprieter may discontinue support at their whim.  I say whim because I cannot beleive that Apple does not have the technical ability to continue support for this hardware...it is still a viable device...and it is insanely well designed.

     

    My final plea to Apple: We still constitute 20% of your market, don't abandon a 2.5 year old platform, give us one or two more upgrades which are substantially similar to the current OS, though without support for the additional hardware.

  • 28. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    EToft Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sorry.  I did not realise that d a m n was too harsh.  I only point this out, lest you think I used a much more vulgar, and truly offensive term.

  • 29. Re: So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?
    vazandrew Level 6 Level 6 (14,045 points)

    Mobile technology is rapidly evolving and the 3rd gen iPod is over 2 years old while still supported. You will find this with other mobile devices as well

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