Currently Being ModeratedApr 15, 2012 11:47 AM (in response to peakcelln)
I suspect the problem you're having is that it first wants to verify the phone number for FaceTime(it is after all a phone), and obviously that can't be done. Let me suggest you make an appointment at an Apple store. Explain the deal to the genius & hopefully they can activate FaceTime for you.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 16, 2012 11:53 AM (in response to wjosten)
The problem is, the closest Apple Store is 25 miles away and usually a 3 hour wait(Or longer) to see someone. I thought when it verifies it searches through your wifi and checks to see if you have an active Apple account(Which I did set up). So your saying it also uses the Phone number in the phone? But the old phone number has nothing to do with my account I set up. I guess I could reset it, but then I would lose all the Games my son plays, especially the angry birds. I wish there was a way to reset the phone number alone, put in my cell number, and keep it inactive. I can do that for alot of phones out there, but this one would be tough. If its like any other Sprint phone I would have to find the Sprint SPC so I could reprogram it. If I do reset it, is there a way to save the old games even though there are technically from the last user? If not, can I reorder the game thru WiFi and my new Apple account? Thanx for your help.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 16, 2012 12:06 PM (in response to peakcelln)
You can make a genius appointment online so you don't have to wait. Only Sprint can "reset the number", that's the way it works on CDMA phones. I don't know for sure this is the issue, just a suspicion.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 16, 2012 12:07 PM (in response to peakcelln)
The iPhone sends a silent SMS message to activate FaceTime and tie it to the phone number, unlike the iPod Touch and iPad. On a GSM iPhone, I don't believe there's a problem activating it without service. I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I am. CDMA phones are a different animal altogether.
If the person you got the phone from did not pay the Early Termination fee, then you may just be hosed. If you paid money for it, try to get it back and just buy an iPod Touch for your son instead.
You do not own the games that are installed on the phone now. No matter what you do, you legally have to buy them yourself using your own Apple ID.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 16, 2012 4:05 PM (in response to KiltedTim)
If it is true about the SMS, then it can't be done. The phone would have to be activated and, as I stated in my OP, the ESN is not free and clear. Therefore It can't send the SMS, ever. I didn't get "Hosed", as I said in the OP, I originally bought the phone for parts. It was only used 3 weeks, looked brand new, is white, and only had 3 hours on the Talktimer. It was only when I discovered my son connected with the Angry Birds game did I consider giving it to him. I have software to identify most SPC's(Service Provider Code) on Sprint, Verizon, and most CDMA phones. I utilize this to update Software, reflash, or Change PRL's, on CDMA phones. But even finding out this and reprograming it with another number won't work if an actual SMS has to be sent thru the Sprint System; besides, I'm pretty sure this software(CDMA WS Pro) won't work with iphones. So I guess the "Genius" guy wouldnt be able to help me out anyway. Too bad there isnt away around having to use Sprint to activate an Apple app. If anyone else has a solution, please let me know. Thanx for your help.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 16, 2012 4:18 PM (in response to peakcelln)
I'm pretty sure this software(CDMA WS Pro) won't work with iphones.
No, it won't. And attempting to do so would be considered an unauthorized modification to the phone, invalidating the warranty and forfeiting all rights to support.
Your best bet is to take it in to the Genius bar and see what they can do for you. Sorry, I don't have a CDMA phone and don't have access to anyone with a de-activated CDMA phone to do any testing with. They are a different animal, though, due to the closed nature of CDMA.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 17, 2012 7:20 AM (in response to KiltedTim)
Having opened and fixed many of them, both CDMA and GSM, there is nothing compatible between the two phones; except the batteries and screws. Obviously the logic boards, or mother boards, are completely different due to the two different technologies; but so are all the rest of the parts. I cant tell you how many come into my repair store with Cdma parts to fix their GSM iphone, and vice-versa. Many also believe you can unlock one to work on the other, totally untrue. Iphones are Service Provider centric, with the limited exception of AT&T and T-Mo, or another GSM SP.
I guess I will try and make an appt at the Apple store. Maybe if I bring my son and they see how much he loves it and how hard it is to take it away from him, they'll make some kind of in-house exception and break the code; hopefully they can do it and its not a Sprint only function. I'll keep the thread posted.