Q: Mail Forward and Group Mail...
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Apr 18, 2012 5:22 AMby Antonio Rocco,HelpfulHi
"It seems that group mail introduced in previous Snow Leopard Server, it's gone. There is mailman, but I don't need a mailing list , just a simple mail grooup functionality. It's impossible to do in Lion Server?"
Actually Group e-mailing was available in previous versions of the Server. It's not impossible to do in Lion Server either. It's just not obvious if you want to use the interface. There's not much documentation regarding this either.
These two threads (you could have searched this for yourself) should have the information you need:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3518290?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3229060?start=0&tstart=0
There's also a way of doing this using WorkGroup Manager's Info Tab.
You should get into the habit of using the command line on OS X Server - the Terminal application in /Applications/Utilities - as this is the most effective way for you to get what you want, especially with the Mail Service.
The other Server Administration applications (which you may not be aware of?) are available for free download here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1488
You will need Server Admin to initially configure the Mail Service properly. As ever remember to set up DNS Services correctly as everything you want or may want will depend on it.
HTH?
Tony
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Apr 19, 2012 7:05 AMby Andrea P.,Thank You Antonio for your hints, this is my toughts:
First: I'm really disappointed (as many others users) to choice of Apple to remove every good features with no particular reasons and maybe return on her feet (like Aliases on apache or PPTP VPN).
Going to my problem: I already read that threads and off course I set up DNS and mail service properly, I have already installed Server Administrator applications on my Lion Server.
I decided to choose another direction for mail group: I create a real mail for every eligible "group" and set proper "send copy mail to" filter in roundcube, to redirect a copy to users belonging to that "group".
This is good for this reasons:
1. It's a simple solution available to users and not just for the admin.
2. It's not a just a forward so we have a repository of mails inside mailbox acting as a "group"
3. Another consequence of 2 is that there's no limitation to max 4 forward that someone said about dovecot
4. Is not a "config-file-personalization" good for linux servers but with some risk on OsX because Apple (with updates) or "GUI configuration programs" can erase your modify conf files.
I have no problems with terminal (and I use bash shell every day with my linux servers), but Apple choose an hybrid approach (that is not bad "per se") without telling us the right intrument to use and the context.
Some functionality is hidden and that is ok, but modify by hand this functionality is a wasted time: Mail graylist is a perfect example: you can modify postfix.conf to remove grayisting policy, but server.app rewrite this file adding that policy, pushing power users to find every kind of loophole to avoid this behaviour.
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Apr 19, 2012 7:58 AMby Antonio Rocco,Hello Andrea
"Mail graylist is a perfect example: you can modify postfix.conf to remove grayisting policy, but server.app rewrite this file adding that policy, pushing power users to find every kind of loophole to avoid this behaviour."
Can't say I've seen this behaviour to be honest? What I have seen is Server Admin enabling the Junk Mail Filtering after you stop and then start the service. However it does not do this always. Then again this is nothing unusual and ever since 10.3 Server (and probably before) Server Admin as an application is known to display slightly psychotic behaviour.
Then again what do you expect for an extremely low-priced "Server"?
HTH?
Tony
