9 Replies Latest reply: Apr 21, 2012 11:04 AM by Jimtron
Hepcat B Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have some clips shot with my iPhone framed vertically that I want to rotate 90 degrees to fill the frame with a normal horizontal frame in Final Cut.  All the instructions and tutorials I find that tell me how to rotate the clip, when followed, merely turn the image but LEAVE the vertical letterboxing as is.  Resizing does nothing to fix this problem; if the actual frame were rotated I wouldn't have to distort the image further to fill the screen. 

 

I'm guessing there has to be a way to modify the clip properly in Final Cut, but if not, perhaps it could be done in iPhoto?  I'm a novice with iPhoto as well.

 

Thanks in advance!  :^)

 

Hep B.


Final Cut Pro X, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
  • 1. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Jimtron Level 1 Level 1 (130 points)

         You need to crop and enlarge to fill the frame, but once you do that the resolution's going to be pretty rough I think.

  • 2. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Hepcat B Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Jimtron, are you confident in confirming that what I want to do definitely can't be done?  If that's the case, I'd love if someone could explain why this is such a complicated thing for the system.  It seems like it would be the simplest thing in the world.  It has the same dimensions and resolution as verticle clips in the session, *why* can't it just rotate the whole frame?  So there's no way to rotate an iPhone movie, in FCP or another program, without distorting it all to heck?  Seems crazy but if that's the case, I'd love to at least understand so I could let it go. 

  • 3. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,680 points)

    If I understand you correctly, what you want to do is to change the sequence settings so that the sequence is, for example, 720 wide x 1280 high instead of the normal 1280 wide x 720 high - so the 16 x 9 shaped frame becomes 9 x 16?

     

    See if this helps:

     

    http://www.larryjordan.biz/fcpx-custom-project-sizes/

     

     

     

     

    MtD

  • 4. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Hepcat B Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Actually it's sort of the opposite, but only for specific shots.  My session is in the normal 16 x 9, as are most of the shots.  But I have some shots that are 9 x 16 because of how they were shot with the iPhone, and I want certain of those shots to conform to the session norm.

  • 5. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Jimtron Level 1 Level 1 (130 points)

    "Thanks Jimtron, are you confident in confirming that what I want to do definitely can't be done?"

     

     

    No, I didn't say it couldn't be done, I said you need to crop your image.  It will likely look rough because you're going to have to make an extreme crop and enlargement to fill a widescreen frame with a vertical image.

     

    Click on the clip in the timeline with the video you want to rotate and enlarge. Then hit shift T. In the info panel on the right, use the rotate tool to rotate the image, then slide the scale tool to enlarge to fit.

  • 6. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (9,680 points)

    OK, so you have some shots that look like this:

    16x9.jpg

    And some like this:

    9x16.jpg

    and when you edit a 9x16 shot into your project you get:

    This.jpg

     

    Do you want it to squeeze/distort it to fill frame:

    OR This.jpg

     

    Or zoom in on the image so that you loose the top and bottom but the image aspect is undistorted, just zoomed in?

     

    OR This THis.jpg

    MtD

  • 7. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Hepcat B Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Okay cool.  What I meant by "what I want to do" was, to rotate the image without degrading the quality.   But I did as you suggested, and it actually looks alright; there may even be no loss in quality, since the shot resolution should be the same as the horizontal shots, yes? 

     

    I think maybe my initial problem all along was that I was trying to originally change the orientation of the clip from the Browser - that's where I was getting the unchangeable vertical letterbox.  Selecting the clip in the timeline as you suggested seems to have made the difference. 

     

    Thanks for your help! 

  • 8. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Hepcat B Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the help also Meg, very nice of you. 

  • 9. Re: Rotate Image WITH Entire Frame/Canvas (?)
    Jimtron Level 1 Level 1 (130 points)

    "But I did as you suggested, and it actually looks alright; there may even be no loss in quality, since the shot resolution should be the same as the horizontal shots, yes? "

     

     

    I'm glad the quality looks alright, but if you are enlarging the image (scaling) significantly, I think you are effectively losing resolution/image quality. But if it looks good, no worries.