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Graham Perrin
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Q: sidebar missing from iCal in Lion — seeking a third party product to restore lost functionality

Apple has removed the sidebar, the always-on list of calendars that required no click.

 

The shallow popover that appears only when clicked — obscuring part of the calendar before disappearing — is to me (and some others) an unacceptable substitute for working with multiple calendars, especially where calendars are grouped across multiple servers.

 

I'm aware of third party alternatives to iCal. (Most full-featured calendar interfaces do have an always-on full-height list of calendars. Probably the best known alternative to iCal is BusyCal.)

 

This topic does not seek alternatives; I do wish to continue using iCal, albeit in a way that is less frustrating than what Apple forces upon users of 10.7.

 

This topic seeks:

 

  • a third party product that will restore lost functionality to iCal.

 

To any developer who reads this topic: please, I beg you, on my knees, submit your iCal sidebar app — or whatever you wish to call it — to the App Store as soon as you can. I'll gladly pay, and more than gladly help to test any pre-Store development version.

 

Other readers please note: whilst I'm extraordinarily frustrated by Apple's design decision, this is not an invitation to rant. Let's gain something constructive from this discussion.

 

If you wish Apple to restore the sidebar to iCal, as an option, then please:

 

    • submit iCal feedback to Apple, with your use case; explain why for you personally the limited disappearing popover is a poor substitute; explain how the sidebar will improve both (a) your productivity and (b) your appreciation of Apple's software.

 

Side note: no category includes iCal, so I file this opening post under Using Mac OS X v10.7 Lion.

 

Thank you

Graham

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7), 8 GB MacBookPro5,2 GeForce 9600M GT

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 8:45 AM

by Graham Perrin,Solvedanswer
Graham Perrin Graham Perrin
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A:

This topic may have become too long for people to read in its entirety. Amongst the eight pages, too much has overlooked the opening post, so I abandon hope of gaining an answer that is on-topic.

 

Conclusion

 

In Apple Support Communities I'm marking question as answered — without an answer.

 

The focused question remains:

 

Posted on Apr 24, 2012 8:46 PM

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  • by klackenstam,

    klackenstam klackenstam Apr 3, 2012 10:42 PM in response to stevefromgladstone
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    Apr 3, 2012 10:42 PM in response to stevefromgladstone

    If you bought your computer with Lion preinstalled you never had the list of calendars.

     

    The list and the mini monthly overview disapeard in the Snow Leopard to Lion upgrade.

    They are however almost forcing us to upgrade from Snow Leo to Lion.

     

    But Apple diddent steal it from you.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 4, 2012 8:16 AM in response to stevefromgladstone
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    Apr 4, 2012 8:16 AM in response to stevefromgladstone

    stevefromgladstone wrote:

     

    Technically perhaps Csound1, I haven't read the fine print but will soon.  I cannot copy the software and sell it as my own, duh. 

     

    snip

     

    If, as you say, I am under license to Apple, then they should be on their way to my home to remove
    "their" software, because I'm sure I must be breaking the agreement by not updating it. 

    No, you can update or not, your choice.

  • by Andreas Carlsson,

    Andreas Carlsson Andreas Carlsson Apr 16, 2012 6:54 AM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Apr 16, 2012 6:54 AM in response to Graham Perrin

    I agree with Mr Graham Perrin!

     

    If someone likes this, why can't we have this as a choice in the preferences? Is it really that hard?

  • by lakaye,

    lakaye lakaye Apr 19, 2012 6:48 PM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Apr 19, 2012 6:48 PM in response to Graham Perrin

    After a frustratingly long time waiting and hoping for Apple to give us back the functionality they so carelessly stripped iCal of, I bit the bullet and tried BusyCal. OH MY GOD!! This program ROCKS!! I hate that I had to pay for something with features that were previously available for free in iCal but there is so much to rave about in BusyCal that I no longer care. All the missing iCal functionality plus many more wonderful features such as 5-day weather forecasts to boot? I'm SOLD.

     

    With Apple pandering more and more to the consumer market and ignoring the needs of small business owners like myself, this was a 100% justifiable expense, and one I am happy to have made.

     

    BusyCal also has TREMENDOUS support - after a few minor issues with syncing, a quick google search gave me all the solutions I could possibly want, and their online manual is clear, concise, and well laid out. BRAVO BUSYCAL. Bye bye ical...

     

    Over and out.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 19, 2012 7:16 PM in response to lakaye
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    Apr 19, 2012 7:16 PM in response to lakaye

    lakaye wrote:

     

    After a frustratingly long time waiting and hoping for Apple to give us back the functionality they so carelessly stripped iCal of, I bit the bullet and tried BusyCal. OH MY GOD!! This program ROCKS!! I hate that I had to pay for something with features that were previously available for free in iCal but there is so much to rave about in BusyCal that I no longer care. All the missing iCal functionality plus many more wonderful features such as 5-day weather forecasts to boot? I'm SOLD.

     

    With Apple pandering more and more to the consumer market and ignoring the needs of small business owners like myself, this was a 100% justifiable expense, and one I am happy to have made.

     

    BusyCal also has TREMENDOUS support - after a few minor issues with syncing, a quick google search gave me all the solutions I could possibly want, and their online manual is clear, concise, and well laid out. BRAVO BUSYCAL. Bye bye ical...

     

    Over and out.

    I totally agree, I have been using it since long before Lion, it is an excellent product.

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Apr 19, 2012 10:46 PM in response to lakaye
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    Apr 19, 2012 10:46 PM in response to lakaye

    Again: this topic is explicitly not for discussion of BusyCal. Readers, please respect this.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 20, 2012 5:09 AM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Apr 20, 2012 5:09 AM in response to Graham Perrin

    Graham Perrin wrote:

     

    Again: this topic is explicitly not for discussion of BusyCal. Readers, please respect this.

    Graham, if you wish to set the posting parameters please start your own site, I am not under your authority, and I represent the majority here.

  • by jenkinstoby,

    jenkinstoby jenkinstoby Apr 20, 2012 5:11 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 20, 2012 5:11 AM in response to Csound1

    i agree. let's here more solutions to ical's woeful shortcomings and less moaning from this moderator.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 20, 2012 5:14 AM in response to jenkinstoby
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    Apr 20, 2012 5:14 AM in response to jenkinstoby

    jenkinstoby wrote:

     

    i agree. let's here more solutions to ical's woeful shortcomings and less moaning from this moderator.

    Graham is not a moderator, he is just another user.

  • by lakaye,

    lakaye lakaye Apr 20, 2012 5:25 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 20, 2012 5:25 AM in response to Csound1

    I believe the original thread had to do with discussing and complaining about the shortcomings of the Lion version of iCal and "seeking a 3rd party product to restore lost functionality."

     

    Towards that end, iCal alternatives were brought up - the predominant one being BusyCal. I believe my most recent comment about BusyCal falls squarely within the topic.

     

    Since, earlier on in this discussion, I was pretty vocal about expressing my frustration with Apple and my reluctance to spend my hard-earned money on an alternative to software I was used to getting for free - I only wanted my positive review of BusyCal to help other folks with the same issues.

  • by wbossons,

    wbossons wbossons Apr 20, 2012 7:01 AM in response to lakaye
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    Apr 20, 2012 7:01 AM in response to lakaye

    If Apple said it was a good idea to jump off the Golden Gate bridge, would you do it?  I lost alot of productivity with the iCal changes in Lion. What a giant piece of garbage is Lion. I am now using Snow Leopard again.

     

    I appreciate learning about the BusyCal app and will even look into it for Snow Leopard. Thanks for the info.

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Apr 24, 2012 8:10 PM in response to lakaye
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    Apr 24, 2012 8:10 PM in response to lakaye

    Readers, please review the first bullet point in my opening post:

     

    • … restore lost functionality to iCal.

     

    BusyCal does not add functionality to iCal. For that reason and others:

     

    • BusyCal is off-topic.

     

    This topic is focused on iCal in Lion.

     

    Thank you.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 24, 2012 8:17 PM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Apr 24, 2012 8:17 PM in response to Graham Perrin

    With respect Graham

     

    The thread title is Re: sidebar missing from iCal in Lion — seeking a third party product to restore lost functionality

     

    It does not say: … restore lost functionality to iCal.

     

    And, while that is one interpretation, it could just mean "seeking a third party product to restore lost functionality"

     

    Which is exactly what BusyCal is, minus Exchange.

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Apr 24, 2012 8:44 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 24, 2012 8:44 PM in response to Csound1

    To clarify: 

     

    • the one-line subject was not intended to be comprehensive, there are limits to the number of characters that can be entered or displayed
    • in the opening post I used a bullet, and bold text, to make clear a key point
    • by discussing BusyCal again you ignore that key point, which is simply disrepsectful.

  • by Graham Perrin,Solvedanswer

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Apr 24, 2012 8:46 PM in response to Graham Perrin
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    Apr 24, 2012 8:46 PM in response to Graham Perrin

    This topic may have become too long for people to read in its entirety. Amongst the eight pages, too much has overlooked the opening post, so I abandon hope of gaining an answer that is on-topic.

     

    Conclusion

     

    In Apple Support Communities I'm marking question as answered — without an answer.

     

    The focused question remains:

     

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