6 Replies Latest reply: Apr 25, 2012 6:28 PM by LarryHN
WingmanWilliams Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Getting very frustrated with Apple products which are suppossed to be intuitive products to use...!!!! OK, so here's the deal -

 

Step one - import images from camera, which creates events for the days on which the images were capture

Step two - create a specific album to put specific images in..... and here comes the problem

                when you cut selected images from and event and paste them into an album they automatically are duplicated back in the original event.

 

Why?

 

I want to put images where I want them not have duplicates flying around everywhere.

 

I dont want to have to go back and delete the images from the event once a copy is in an album.

 

On a PC "cut and paste" means "cut and paste" NOT "cut, paste and duplicate" ........!!!!!


iMac (27-inch Mid 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.3)
  • 1. Re: why are images duplicated when put into a specific album
    Rysz Level 5 Level 5 (4,275 points)

    You're holding it wrong... ;-)

     

    In iPhoto EVERYTHING is kept in the Library. All other locations, such as smart or manual albums, slideshows, etc, contain only pointers to the originals in the Library (think aliases, or shortcuts).

     

    To create an album, just drag the photos from the Library to the album. This will add pointers to the photos, rather than unnecessarily duplicate the photos. When you "cut and paste" you are adding the duplicates to the Library, whether you are viewing it as Events or Photos.

  • 2. Re: why are images duplicated when put into a specific album
    WingmanWilliams Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for your comments but doesn't get away from the fact that it is a totally illogical protocol....

     

    Again, with a PC import from device straight to where you want it filed - one step

     

    Apple - several steps, duplicate data and even if you cut and paste out of iPhoto to a folder on your desktop for example it reappears back in iPhoto upon shutting down and reopening a ta later date......

     

    The only way to file one copy of any one image is to:

    1 - import into iPhoto

    2 - cut and paste to where you want to file images

    3 - close iPhoto

    4 - relaunch iPhoto where they will have magically reappeared

    5 - move images to iPhoto trash

    6 - Empty iPhoto trash

     

    Is anyone seriously going to argue the point that Apple products are intuitive products?

     

    If so, you need to be reminded of the story of "The Emperor's New Clothes"....!!!!

  • 3. Re: why are images duplicated when put into a specific album
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,705 points)

    The only way to file one copy of any one image is to:

    1 - import into iPhoto

    That's it - this will create one copy of your image in iPhoto - the image  will be filed in its container, the event.

     

    You may use the image in albums, books, etc. but these items do not store the image, they only reference it, as Rysz already explained to you.

     

    Your workflow of frequently deleting makes me afraid that you may have deleted your only copies of some of your images.

     

    What exactly is it, that you want to achive by this complicated approach? If you want to file your images outside iPhoto and only store previews in the iPhoto Library, then there is a simpler way to do it: import your images as referenced images, by disabling the option: "copy items to the iPhoto Library". Then none of your imports will be stored in the iPhoto library - iPhoto will reference the images in there current location. If you decide to do it this way, you will be responsible for protecting the master image files from accidental deletion or modification.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • 4. Re: why are images duplicated when put into a specific album
    Rysz Level 5 Level 5 (4,275 points)

    Sorry if my explanation was not clear, but you do not seem to comprehend how iPhoto (and all other non-destructive storage apps) work, in spite of my efforts.

     

    Your re-stated understanding is just completely wrong.

    Library = photo "originals;

    Albums = links to those "originals;"

    Hence, you can use the same photo in multiple albums, slideshows, etc, WITHOUT duplication.

     

    I suggest you put some effort into understanding this very simple and straight-forward approach that is not unique to iPhoto, nor even to photo apps. Otherwise, as Léonie pointed out, you'll end up unwittingly deleting your photos, videos, music, etc.

  • 5. Re: why are images duplicated when put into a specific album
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,665 points)

    when you cut selected images from and event and paste them into an album they automatically are duplicated back in the original event

    That's where you went wrong.  To add a photo to an album without creating a duplicate in the Event all you do is drag the photo from the event to the album.  That creates the pointer that Rysz mentions. 

     

    There's no need to do any copying and pasting.  Just drag and drop.  Reread Rysc's first post carefully. That's how to create and populate albums in iPhoto.

     

    OT

  • 6. Re: why are images duplicated when put into a specific album
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,670 points)

    SOrry but you need to learn to use iPhoto ro start using a program you understand - the fact that you do not understand it does not speak to the program but to you

     

    iPhoto is a SQL database designed to manage photos - you are used to a file management system - which is fine but it is not what iPhoto is

     

    In iPhoto you import photos to iPhoto they are placed in the database and indexed - you can add them to albume if you choose by dragging them to an album (no copy and paste involved) which does not duplicate the photo but simply creates a set of database pointers telling iPhoto what albums the photo is in

     

    I suggest you watch the iPhoto videos in the iPhoto helop section - it will save you lots of grief - or switch to a file manage if you do not like the iPhoto database approach

     

    LN