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I hate iCloud!!!

6562 Views 42 Replies Latest reply: Jan 22, 2013 12:16 AM by Julian Wright RSS
  • Lee Blaske1 Calculating status...
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    Mar 15, 2012 2:18 PM (in response to Julian Wright)

    What you say is completely true, and I will find a way to deal with the situation and publish my website on a non-Apple service. Might also be a good time to abandon iWeb, because who knows if Apple will keep that going now that it's not part of the MobileMe experience.


    But, rest assured that these changes have made me less happy with Apple than I would have been, and it may influence my purchasing decisions in the future. I have a number of friends in the same predicament regarding iWeb hosting, and they're not happy.


    Certainly, I know companies do these kinds of things all the time, and when they do, I'm not happy with them either.

  • glitchNE Calculating status...
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    Mar 15, 2012 3:53 PM (in response to Lee Blaske1)

    It's the basic mindset change at Apple that worries me most. Instead of being a company that helps people create content they've become a company that helps people consume content. Not bad, they make great consumer devices. But after the last few releases of Apple programs I'm really frusttrated by the dumbing down of their OS and programs to such an extent that they've really wriiten themselves out of some industries. Final Cut is being used but only version 7 by professionals and the iWork suite (really the best office suite) is becoming more difficult for business and schools to support because of the tie-in to iCloud and the security issues that brings up for those instituions. Sorry but iCloud's security isn't up to the requirements that many institutions have.


    Oh, and the idea that we all want to sync everything is really tough for me and a lot of people to accept. I and a lot of people want just the files on the cloud we need on the cloud.

  • scorwitz Calculating status...
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    Mar 20, 2012 1:51 PM (in response to Firehouse Design)

    I'm with Firehouse Design on this.  As a brand new Apple user, I expect everything they do to "just work".  That is the company line afterall and we pay dearly for it.  Historically Apple has been late to the game on a lot of things, partly because they have taken the time and care to make sure it "just works" first. They really messed up with iCloud.  I have lost contacts, notes and had duplicates of all my iphone photos.


    I have read and read user discussion forums and tried various things which in one case resulted in the lost of half my notes.  


    I love the hardware, I love Lion OS so far, but iCloud, much like crack cocaine, is a JUST SAY NO proposition for me at the moment. 

  • 83nate Calculating status...
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    Mar 20, 2012 2:11 PM (in response to scorwitz)

    Yes! the limitations with what you can do with it frustrate me the most. But I dont understand why people get so emotional about it and fire back defensively at those who make criticisms. Shouldn't apple value criticism?

  • Mr. Mellow Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Mar 21, 2012 6:24 PM (in response to 83nate)

    I don't understand why people react the way they do, either. So many of the "high-level" posters act like they work for Apple and are gatekeepers of the forum. Instead of taking the time to ask the OP what the problem is, they take just as much time to scold them for wasting their time! (Think about that for a second.) People need to blow off a little steam. If someone thinks they might be able to help, but aren't sure what the OP is asking, a few insightful questions can usually get to the problem. If someone doesn't want to engage an OP in this way, then they should just ignore the thread! It's a much simpler solution.


    My recommendation to the OP would be to avoid iCloud for now. I wish I could help you with your Calendar issues (I don't know enough about it to even ask you leading questions). It is NOT easy to wade through Apple's help pages and forum if you don't know Macs inside and out. Like a bad math teacher who forgot what it was like to not understand, some people don't seem able to show any empathy or tolerance for the difficulties of trying to understand how to make some things work, so I just wanted to say I hope everything works out.


    Also, to the person who said iCloud is not for syncing, what is Photostream then? Yes, Apple's description of iCloud says that it, "gives you access to your music, movies, apps, latest photos, and more from whichever device you happen to be using. And it keeps your email, contacts, and calendars up to date across all your devices. No syncing required." This is just semantics. Pushing data out to multiple devices is syncing. Apple is just saying that you don't have to go through a syncing process; they do it for you.

  • VeniceTheMenace Calculating status...
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    Apr 24, 2012 10:43 PM (in response to Firehouse Design)

    I agree with you Firehosue Design and you have every right to post here.


    iCloud is crap.  I cannot believe it is an Apple service.

  • Pam30 Calculating status...
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    Apr 25, 2012 3:04 AM (in response to VeniceTheMenace)

    I also agree with Firehouse.    I have been a very long time user of the Apple computer (1985) and their multiple platforms.  I am disappointed with iCloud and it is not working as seamlessly as I would like.  I just switched to Justcloud for my document storage and am very happy with it.  After reading Steve Jobs book, I am convinced that he would never have allowed release of this platform (iCloud) until all of the kinks were worked out.  Regarding these forums, I also agree with a few entries here regarding the tone of some of the entries.  I find one particular subscriber (Csound1) to be unnecessarily abrasivee and condescending - not at all welcome nor helpful. 

  • dalstott Level 4 Level 4 (2,445 points)
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    Apr 25, 2012 9:18 AM (in response to Pam30)

    Wisdom too easily forgotten.


    "What is new is not necessarily needed, and what is old is not automatically obsolete"

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,300 points)
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    Apr 25, 2012 11:23 AM (in response to Pam30)

    Pam30 wrote:


    I find one particular subscriber (Csound1) to be unnecessarily abrasivee and condescending - not at all welcome nor helpful. 

    This is not therapy, please ignore me if you prefer.

  • Mr. Mellow Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Apr 25, 2012 2:07 PM (in response to Csound1)

    Again, people trying to dictate what the forum is or isn't. Do you have any suggestions as to how to improve the iCloud experience? As I'm sure you consider yourself an Apple expert an a privileged member of the forum, could you offer your assistance without adminitions or lecturing? Like I said before, people need to vent a little. Anyone who's ever worked a customer service job knows this. After they vent, you can usually get to specifics.


    I would love to help by asking questions and seeing if I could answer them, but I don't know enough about iCloud to be of help. I was hoping to see 'veteran' forum member who knows what they're talking about contribute in this way. I have seen some very considerate and helpful members help someone work out an issue by helping them to articulate what, specifically, they are having issues with. You only seem interested in berating people for being frustrated. Ignoring someone is much easier if they're not in your face. Feel free to ignore this thread if it bothers you.

  • glitchNE Level 2 Level 2 (280 points)
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    Apr 25, 2012 2:22 PM (in response to Mr. Mellow)

    Ok, basically my problem with iCloud is the lack of control. Automatic anything doesn't really help me. Sync is really problematic. Not that it happens much but when it does you're really screwed. Another problem I have is the lose of iDisk's drag and drop. I really don't want everything that I have on the cloud to be mimicked on every computer I own. My boss has two dropbox accounts and it's filled up his hard drive.

  • Tim99 Calculating status...
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    Jan 21, 2013 6:09 PM (in response to Firehouse Design)

    I've not read all the posts on this topic.  The general vibe seems to be - mine works fine, you need to study and figure out the problem with yours. 

    This will be a rant based on me having lost another day of my life reinstalling Lion and subsequent issues etc. etc.  I'm not happy.  I've fallen out of love.




    If you have an iPhone, an iPad and a newish Mac life is probably great. iCloud must float a boat.  Like going into space; fantastic until something goes wrong and then you're in trouble in you're in a 5 year old rocket.


    Apple used to be cool.  Like a straightforward, classic car that, with a little bit of knowledge, you could fix yourself.  I have LC45s, an LCIII, a slightly dodgy one that I can't remeber, an 840AV, they all work. Perfectly. They have limited capability but not one of them ever gave me a problem.  The LCs could still write a book or do a spreadsheet.  The 840 was still mastering 24-bit recordings until recently (it still could).

    Obviously, that has little to do with modern computers but, I think, everyhting to do with Apple.


    G3, G4, G5 - cool stuff, increased speed but then that iTunes thing..... still the elephant in the room?


    I have two dead G5s with the same problem, that Apple wanted half of what they cost to buy to fix them. Two of them had the same issue but Apple had moved on to Intel and didn't care. It's over 3 years - throw them away.  We're not talking PCs, we're talikng about Macs.  Rolls Royce computers.


    I have a first generation 2006 Intel iMac with no upgrades, works like a dream...  boots up in seconds and never complains.  I can't even remeber which OS is on it.  It works, it does what it did when I bought it. I'm happy about that but would be happier if the G5s were still working too. 



    iTunes.  Hideous.  Completely un-Apple like.   Meanwhile it was so easy to use a new 3rd party App with the same Inspector as the iLife stuff - Apple were on top of the game. Genius.

    iTunes was still the same horrible, bloated, nasty, PC-like piece of **** it had always been.  Keep upgrading. Keep adding to the problems. 


    MobileMe worked great for me - web space, backups, sharing - and I'm ****** off they took it away.  I'd figured it out and then they took it away;  to take control and make everything instant and seamless.  Yet still fallable.


    I used to be quite capable of backing up important stuff myself.  20 or 30 photos - it's hard to decide to delete any of them, so backup the really good ones. That was when Apple and Macs benefited my life instead of controlling it and taking choices away. 


    Why should I have to figure out how to fix something that is now so complex, when it goes wrong it's a minefield (even it may be user error)? 

    When Apple could very easily have continued to support the customers that had made it possible for them to sustain and grow.  I loved Apple.  First generation Blueberry iMac, G4 iMac. iBook - all amazing.


    How cool would it be, what an amazing tribute it would be to the original concept for Apple to have been able to show old Macs still working perfectly 20 years on, doing the same task they were purchased for.  Why did they have to want to take over the world - why not be happy being succesful and making a lot of customers very happy and continuing to suport them?


    Boo hoo - they let me down. 


    P.S.  I'm well aware that most of that is not very well-informed and look forward to the responses

  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
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    Jan 22, 2013 12:16 AM (in response to Tim99)

    Unfortunately, most of your lengthy post has nothing at all to do with iCloud, and you don't even mention what specific problems you are having, so it's rather difficult to respond with any suggestions that may help.


    Try starting a new thread, stating what hardware you have with what OSs, what exactly isn't working, what happens when you try to use it as designed, and what troubleshooting steps you have already tried.

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