5 Replies Latest reply: Apr 29, 2012 6:17 AM by snowmelt
snowmelt Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I belive I have the infamous narcolepsy issue.  I have read all over the internet about removing the trackpad sensor.  However, when I open mine (2005 17" 1.5ghz) the layout is different and there is no sensor.

 

Has anyone else solved this on this model?  the computer runs for about a minute or two then goes to sleep.  It does not matter whether booting from internal, external drive, CD etc.


Thanks


PowerBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
  • 1. Re: Powerbook G4 17" Aluminum Overheat Sensor
    Texas Mac Man Level 8 Level 8 (45,780 points)

    Here's the disassembly instructions & parts for your PowerBook.

    http://www.ifixit.com/Device/PowerBook_G4_Aluminum_17%22_1-1.67_GHz

     

     Cheers, Tom

  • 2. Re: Powerbook G4 17" Aluminum Overheat Sensor
    Allan Jones Level 7 Level 7 (30,415 points)

    Before tearing into the computer, let's do some probing that may allow less intrusive intervention. It's possible to trash a PowerBook with one little slip-up during take-apart.

    the computer runs for about a minute or two then goes to sleep.

     

    Does this happen on battery, A/C power, or both?

     

    If on battery, neither charge level or heath may tell the whole story. My PBG4 was 5 years old when given to me with the original battery. The battery had only 100 cycles in five years (too few) but displayed decent retained charge and runtime. However, it would only run so long on battery and shut down abruptly at the same charge level of about 60 percent. An Apple tech looked at it and said the batteries have several cells within. Should one go bad, the computer will shut down within a percent or two of the same charge level every time. The only cure is a new battery.

     

    If it does this on wall power as well, it could be overheating due to a runaway background process or a bad fan or fan sensor. The computer has thermal protection that shuts it down if temps become dangerous. If a fan sensor goes bad, the fans are set to switch to full-speed mode to prevent overheating. If the fan motor goes, you get no warning unless you have temperature-monitoring software installed.

     

    This Dashborad widget:

     

    http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/status/istatpro.html

     

    defects both temperature and fan speed. If a fan is not showing about 2000+ rpm, you have a dead fan. If a fans shows it's dong about 6000 rpm, there is a dead temp sensor somewhere.

  • 3. Re: Powerbook G4 17" Aluminum Overheat Sensor
    snowmelt Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the reply, but it happens on Battery and or on Wall.  I cant run the widget, becuase it sleeps before the boot finishes.  Like I said it is a new drive  and a new battery.  I loaded the drive outside the computer so it has a clean load, and the same thing happens even in Target mode or booting off a CD.  I pulled the system.log off (via target mode) and it shows the Emergency Overheat Sleep.  I can also see it in single user or verbose boot mode.


    Obviously it is not getting hot, as it happens in the first minute so my guess is a bad sensor.

  • 4. Re: Powerbook G4 17" Aluminum Overheat Sensor
    Texas Mac Man Level 8 Level 8 (45,780 points)

    I loaded the drive outside the computer so it has a clean load

     

    Explain what and how you did this. Did you use a retail OS X installer or a gray disc from another model Mac?

     

     Cheers, Tom

  • 5. Re: Powerbook G4 17" Aluminum Overheat Sensor
    snowmelt Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    using target mode i connected to another powerbook and loaded from a retail dvd. Again, it hapens even booted from the dvd that came with the machine