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  • 15. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    bill 58 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    hi igmar, my problem is after i formatted and installed my new bare hd in my powerbook g4 1ghz dvi i tried to install the system software from my install disc 10.2 right after the set language to english screen i opened disc utility on the install disc there was no hd in the list. i then tried to finish the install but when i got to the point to pick the disc to instal to there was nothing to chose. does this help?

  • 16. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    bill 58 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    also i erased the hd, formatted, made sure it was mac os extended (journaled), apple partition map. the drive is a toshiba 60 gb. thanks

  • 17. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    BouiBlane Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    How can that be? I am the administrator.

  • 18. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    Let us resume the required steps, after putting inside a new, virgin disk:

    1. Start up machine and as soon as possible put CD/DVD, press key C to force boot from CD; if the sequence is not fast enough and machine passed over the initial phase, and ? was displayed, force shut down by pressing button key, then start again, with CD/DVD inside

    2. Press key C after start, and wait until the Apple logo in displayed, wait

    3. You will see a list of install language, choose one, and

    4. Go up to Apple bar and choose Disk Utility; on the left side, you will see the disk, select it, then, on the cenral-lower part of displayed windows go to Options and choose Apple Partition Map (APM), go back and choose, if not already chosen by default, Mac OS Extended Journaled (HFS+), 1 partition (or more, some prefer more than one), click to partiion/erase disk. Note that you MUST have both conditions achieved: APM and HFS+

    5. Close Disk Utility and revert to installation proper, proceed.

    If you do not see the disk on the left side of Disk Utility, then disk is damaged or badly connected.

     

    P.S. The same procedures are applied to any disk, with the note that:

    - for Intel Macs, partition map should be GUID, not APM

    - for external disks or flash drives intended to smoothly work with Windows, format should be FAT 32 and Master Boot Record; NTFS may be done with an additional utility like NTFS-3G or NTFSmounter

  • 19. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    And? Did not work? Why? What happened? What did you see on screen? Where did you stop?

  • 20. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    bill 58 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    hello cattus, ok thank you for helping sorry i didnt get this last night. i have done every thing as you said but when i get to the disc utility screen there is no hd on the left side to chose. i can only assume that the small connector is bad. i ran diskwarrior with my usb drive plugged in and d w found that but no internal hd. thanks again

  • 21. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    BouiBlane Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I can't force the external drive to boot. I keep getting a message that the install disk is damaged, but other install disks and, indeed, my techtook disk also gives that message. Disk utility doesn't load off the internal hard drive, nor can I use the preference pane to change the boot drive. Incidentally I cannot reboot: I have to use the power button as the restart command doesn't work. The machines starts, and some apps work but some don't. The Trash icon is missing, too, from the desktop.

     

    Thanks for your advice. I actually had tried it before you offered it, but it seems like something is stopping the drives from reading the install disk. Incidentally, I can't access the Security feature of the Preferences Pane either. One other curious thing: any changes to Preference Pane items do not take, i.e., when I powerdown or leave preference panes they return to the settings they previously had. Except for the display. Some ofte prefeenc items go into an endless loop, too.

     

    So again when I try what you suggest, I am still unable to boot externally. Can my system be so corrupted that I cannot boot externally? How do I get control over the machine?

     

    Dave

  • 22. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    You must solve this issue first: disk must be available. It is either damaged or contacts are bad. In practice, you do not have any available disk.

    For testing purposes, you may try an external FIREWIRE drive (not USB), and repeat the same steps.

  • 23. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    EXternal drive must be connected via FIREWIRE, not USB, mandatory for PPC machines. For the rest, see above, steps are the same.

  • 24. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    bill 58 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    cattus thanks i know about the fire wire thing i have to find or buy a fire wire enclosure for my spare drive. also im going to get a new hd to logic board connector. ill let you know in a couple of days hopefully. thanks again for your help.

  • 25. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    Ingmar Hemsen Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Hmm Bouiblane.

    I have never heard of a system that is too corrupted for external boot. Virus infections have not been a real problem since the introduction of MacOS X 10.

     

    Do you suspect problems with your hardware? Firewire connection or internal optical drive? Tried to zap PRAM?

     

     

    Resetting your Mac's PRAM and NVRAMhttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379

    Intel-based Macs: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC)

     

    If you start from a CD/DVD (pressing the C button while the mac starts) your system settings should normally not prevent the mac from booting. You can also try safe mode by holding the shift-button during startup. (See startup shortcuts in Mac OS help for more key combinations.)

     

    Ingmar

  • 26. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    KGD Level 2 Level 2 (495 points)

    I have a 15" Titanium from a friend and the drive does not respond to an OS X disk that I purchased separately.  Does the Powerbook need a replacement hard drive (I am guessing yes) or is there a special System Disk that I need?

  • 27. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    Titanium may support Tiger, if you have sufficient RAM (theoretically 256, but 512 proves the reasonable minimum), Panther also works. You need either the install kit it came with it or a generic (or ‘retail’) install CD/DVD. You give no detail. Does it read DVDs? or only CDs? Nobody can guess whether your disk should or not be replaced, you must check it from the installer CD/DVD, by running Disk Utility prior to installing the system. Does it work now? What happens if you press the power button?

    You offer no detail, and your presenting the issue is unclear.

  • 28. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    KGD Level 2 Level 2 (495 points)

    The OS is a retail version.  My guess is the drive reads both DVDs and CDs.  The hard drive does not format using Disk Utility.  The system will just show a grey screen when attempting a hard drive boot.  The installation prompt will appear when booting from the OS disc, but hangs up with any attempted instillation.

  • 29. Re: can not install system software on powerbook g4 new hard drive
    Cattus Thraex Level 4 Level 4 (1,715 points)

    You begin to be clearer, but not very clear. Let me resume:

    – ‘The hard drive does not format using Disk Utility.’ How did you proceed, describe what you did, and what you saw on screen. In order to format, you must select the superior level displayed in Disk Utility, format Mac OS Extended Journaled and – VERY IMPORTANT – under Options (lower right) select Apple Partition Map (both conditions are mandatory).

    – This may mean a corrupt system or a dying disk

    – This seems logical, if either the disk is dead or is not formatted as required.

     

    You may attempt a succesful installation unto an external firewire drive (FW is mandatory for that generation). It is just like installing unto the internal disk, but you select the eternal one. Of course, formatting must also comply with both requirements: HFS+ and Apple Partition Map. If installation is smooth in this way, the internal disk must be dead.

    If in good state, a Titanium PB may be a good device for current work running Tiger.