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Aperture. Time to quit.

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jb-7 Calculating status...
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Apr 30, 2012 4:05 PM

I've used Aperture since it came out. It's now unusable, needs to be force quit all the time. When I re-open, I'm greeted by a status bar, telling me that it's waiting for Time Machine to finish backing up library. I don't use time machine, it's turned off, and I have no Time Machine enabled Disks.

 

I think it's time to give up on this pos software, I'm on a new Macbook pro with 8gb ram, and it's rubbish. I've run Onyx, repaired permissions, pulled my hair out, it makes no difference.

 

Lightroom seems to be the only option, taking 6 libraries with 1TB of images with me.

 

I'm unhappy about that, but I can't deal with an allegedly pro app that can't deal with the basics.

If it's not the application, then it's the machine. I bought it because it was just supposed to work, but maybe they've given up on that bit of marketing.

 

Adios.

Macbook Pro
  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    Apr 30, 2012 4:12 PM (in response to jb-7)

    We voluntarily help people make the most of Aperture.  If you are not here to be helped, please don't post. 

     

    If you would like help, repost with the specifics of your problem, and everything you've already done to resolve it.

     

    Aperture works well for tens of thousands of users.  There is an excellent chance that it could work well for you, too.

     

    Force-quitting any database should only be used as a last resort, and you should repair or rebuild the database afterwards before using it.  Have you followed any of the steps detailed on this official trouble-shooting page?

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,475 points)
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    Apr 30, 2012 5:00 PM (in response to jb-7)

    jb-7,

    surely you are joking, or are you not?

    You are posting in a user forum that is there to help people to solve their technical problems with Aperture. And this is what we do volutarily in our spare time.

     

    You went to the trouble to post three messages, and made many of us read thru your messages - 33 reads I see right now. If you ask for help, and make us try to figure out how to help, then please have the courtesy to read and try to understand what we are posting. And to answer the questions that we need to ask, to figure out who of us will be able to help, and how we will be able to help. And your post certainly  needs clarification:

    • You did not tell us the Mac OS X version you are running, or the Aperture version.
    • We do not know where your Aperture Library is located, and if it is referenced, managed, or mixed, and whether you are shooting raw images or not.
    • We do not know how you migrated your library to your new MBP.

    The only thing we know for certain is that you are constantly risking to corrupt your Aperture library by force quitting Aperture.

     

    The problems you describe indicate serious problems with your system, but not necessarily a problem with Aperture.

     

    Good luck to you for trying to solve this problem on your own. You just rejected - very ungraciously I might add - the competent help of one of the best and most experienced trouble shooters we have on this forum.

     

    Regards

  • CorkyO2 Level 4 Level 4 (1,290 points)
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    Apr 30, 2012 6:59 PM (in response to jb-7)

    jb-7,

     

    I have not experienced the issue you are seeing, but I have noticed on my MBP (late 2011) with a Time Capsule; that when I turned off Time Machine, I could not shut-down the machine normally. Something in 10.7.3 connected to Time Machine seems to be hanging after turning it off (Time Machine > Time Machine Preferences > Select Disk > Do Not Backup).

     

    The only ideas I have are as follows:

     

    1 - Look in '/Library/Preferences' and see if there is a 'com.apple.TimeMachine.plst' and 'com.apple.TimeMachine.plist.lockfile'. If so, try deleting and then rebooting.

     

    2 - If that doesn't work and you have an external drive for temporary use, you might go ahead and run a Time Machine backup on it just to get it completed, then disable it and erase the drive. This might allow Aperture to load successfully.

     

    Note - pressing 'Shift' while launching Aperture will bypass Preview creation for a quick check (you may already know this one since you have been using it for a while). Creating a new empty library may also be a good idea to get Aperture to load and prevent to 'Time Machine' issue.

     

    Other than that, I really don't have any ideas since I have not experienced that issue.

  • SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,665 points)
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    Apr 30, 2012 7:13 PM (in response to jb-7)

    jb-

     

    Sorry that you cannot seem to make it work. I also have a (2011) MBP with 8 GB RAM and Aperture absolutely rocks. Previously I ran v1, v2 and v3 on a 2006 MBP and also on a 2006 MP. The 2006 MBP with its max of 3 GB RAM was slow, but it always worked (in fact still does work).

     

    If you care to try to figure out what you are doing wrong please advise workflow, hardware and exact setup in very much detail and we should be able to help you make your workflow work. It will take back-and-forth troubleshooting with lots of work by you. I would suggest starting a new thread with a title something like "20xx MBP, OS XX.xx, Aperture v.xx crashes" because many folks simply ignore informationless rant thread titles.

     

    HTH

     

    -Allen

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    May 1, 2012 4:59 AM (in response to jb-7)

    jb-7 wrote:

     

    Being advised to cease posting seemed to be a strange way to be helpful, seemed to be more like a policeman than a problem solver.

    Hi Joseph.  Please re-read my response.  I did not advise you to cease posting.  I advised you to to not whine, and to post information about the problems you have and what you have done to fix them.  Here is exactly what I said:

    We voluntarily help people make the most of Aperture.  If you are not here to be helped, please don't post.

     

    If you would like help, repost with the specifics of your problem, and everything you've already done to resolve it.

     

    That seems to me to be not only the most helpful response you could get, but also seems to have provided the help you needed in order to move forward with making Aperture work well for you.

     

    Cheers.

  • DiploStrat Level 2 Level 2 (345 points)
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    May 1, 2012 8:32 AM (in response to jb-7)

    jb-7 wrote:

     

    I've used Aperture since it came out. It's now unusable, needs to be force quit all the time. When I re-open, I'm greeted by a status bar, telling me that it's waiting for Time Machine to finish backing up library. I don't use time machine, it's turned off, and I have no Time Machine enabled Disks.

     

    I think it's time to give up on this pos software, I'm on a new Macbook pro with 8gb ram, and it's rubbish. I've run Onyx, repaired permissions, pulled my hair out, it makes no difference.

     

    Lightroom seems to be the only option, taking 6 libraries with 1TB of images with me.

     

    I'm unhappy about that, but I can't deal with an allegedly pro app that can't deal with the basics.

    If it's not the application, then it's the machine. I bought it because it was just supposed to work, but maybe they've given up on that bit of marketing.

     

    Adios.

     

    Gotta decide what you want to do, dude:

     

    -- If you want to yell at Apple, then Aperture>Aperture>Provide Aperture Feed back.

     

    -- If you want to buy Lightroom and learn to use it, start here: http://forums.adobe.com/community/lightroom?view=discussions (You may want to check the FAQ and note the "Lightroom extremely slow"posts.)

     

    -- If you have been using Aperture since release 1.0 and it has suddenly started to misbehave, and you want some help, then ask for it. Tell people what, if anything, has changed, and what, if anything, is odd about your set up.

     

    There are lots of bright, friendly folks here who will spend insane amounts of time trying to diagnose at a distance. I have never seen the problem you report, but this old thread may be helpful: https://discussions.apple.com/message/12506601#12506601

    --

    DiploStrat

  • SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,665 points)
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    May 2, 2012 10:21 AM (in response to jb-7)

    What happens with a new Library, a few dozen newly shot images, each image less than 50 MB each?

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