10 Replies Latest reply: May 1, 2012 1:31 PM by thomas_r.
Lorel Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

I recently upgraded to Lion 10.7.3 on the newest Mac Mini and found several features missing that I'd like working again..

 

I'm a webdesigner so need about 6 programs open at once and when they are all colored the same I can't tell one from the other any more when tiled one above the other.

 

I'd like to be able to change the colors of the toolbar or top of each program plus color the background of the scroll bars. I keep clicking on the wrong page when pages are tiled one on top of the other, as I can't see the edges of the scroll bars.

 

Is there a fix for this problem?

  • 1. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    Lorel wrote:

     

    I recently upgraded to Lion 10.7.3 on the newest Mac Mini and found several features missing that I'd like working again..

     

    I'm a webdesigner so need about 6 programs open at once and when they are all colored the same I can't tell one from the other any more when tiled one above the other.

     

    I'd like to be able to change the colors of the toolbar or top of each program plus color the background of the scroll bars. I keep clicking on the wrong page when pages are tiled one on top of the other, as I can't see the edges of the scroll bars.

     

    Is there a fix for this problem?

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    Pete

  • 2. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    David M Brewer Level 6 Level 6 (9,200 points)

    Use Mission Control to separate the windows.

    Screen Shot 2012-04-28 at 7.36.10 PM.png

     

    Or

     

    Use Exposé...

    Screen Shot 2012-04-28 at 7.47.55 PM (2).png

  • 3. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    David M Brewer Level 6 Level 6 (9,200 points)

    This is a little harder to see... place each window into a new desktop.

     

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  • 4. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    Lorel Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    Why would I want to open multiple desktops when I need about 6 active docs to work from???

     

    I can't even scroll through the docs when Mission control is in operation.

     

    This didn't answer the question re colored scroll bars.

     

    Is there a webmaster in the house who knows what I'm talking about?

  • 5. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (27,925 points)

    Yes, I design web sites, and no, I don't know what you're talking about.  Mac OS X has never color-coded different documents or documents from different apps, and all scroll bars in any particular version of the OS have always been the same regardless of app, so that's not a feature missing from Lion.  Perhaps you had some kind of "haxie" installed that did that and broke under Lion?  I dunno.

     

    I routinely switch between multiple plain text documents containing HTML, CSS, PHP, etc.  Using App Exposé, which David mentioned, makes it easy, as you can see the title of the window below each window.  You can also hover over a window in either Mission Control or App Exposé and press the space bar to see it larger.

  • 6. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    Lorel Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    @Thomas

     

    I upgraded from Tiger 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.3 so there was a giant step into the dark ages. Hundreds of features that used to be available are no longer, plus a plethora of software that no longer works on Lion which was an enormous expense then having to deal with all the "new and improved" features -- all of this for the benefit of people using iphones, ipads, etc., I suppose. I spend at least 2 hours a day trying to find out how to get things to work. Not having Eudora available (which I used for research/color coded docs) was the biggest change. Now I have to duplicate everything in Text edit and resave (about 5,000 documents). There are multiple features not available in Mac Mail that I had in simple little Eudora also-- I just realized I can't change the subject line on mail I receive when the sender didn't properly label it.

     

    Back to the side bar problem  -- All pages in Tiger have a dark shadow between the edge of the page and the scroll bar. Lion has no shadow and it's very hard to determine the edge of the page when two pages are tiled one above the other. And Tiger had an Aqua blue scroll button -- easy to see. Lion's is light gray and not so noticeable. Everything is boring and drab in Lion.

     

    When I have multiple docs open I need to be able to read them so I can read or copy from one to another, therefore mousing over them to see the contents is not an option.

     

    Even this forum is a hair puller. I click on the View the full discussion link in the email and sign in but the forum software does not revert me to the discussion page. I have go go back and click on the "view the discussion" in the email again to find the right page in the forum. Apple needs to wise up and get it's act together.

  • 7. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    Lorel Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    PS. Also Mission control reduces my screen size to about 18 inches instead of 27 and none of the docs are readable.

  • 8. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (27,925 points)

    Most of your complaints simply indicate that you are having difficulty learning something new.  I'm not sure what "hundreds" of missing features you're referring to, especially as someone who regularly has to interact with an old server running Tiger.

     

    Regarding your statement:

     

    When I have multiple docs open I need to be able to read them so I can read or copy from one to another, therefore mousing over them to see the contents is not an option.

     

    That makes no sense whatsoever.  Exposé in Tiger is not significantly different from App Exposé in Lion, other than a few minor appearance changes and some added functionality in Lion.  You couldn't copy or paste using Exposé in Tiger, and couldn't read the text if the windows had to get shrunk to be displayed.  And I can read the text in App Exposé in Lion, if the window size and number are conducive to such.

     

    I'm not sure what else to tell you, other than to say you need to learn to use your new system as it works now, and stop being held back by your years-old perceptions of how things should work.  In the world of technology, change is the only constant, and you either adapt or you fall behind.

  • 9. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    Lorel Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    I never used Expose in Tiger either as I saw no benefit from it. If I can't copy/paste in expose then it's useless for my needs. I usually have 6 documents open when working on a website and they are never in the same position so expose or any other setting at automatically arranges them won't work for my needs.

     

    None of the above answers my original question. The scroll bars have no definitive border, expecially near the bottom of the screen with an LCD screen (the thin gray line disappears) so I can't tell where the scroll bar is. It's also narrower than it used to be so harder to hit the right spot.

     

    If there is no option to increase the visibility of the scroll bar someone should have just said it's not available.

  • 10. Re: How do I get the colored scrollbars back?
    thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (27,925 points)

    Exposé does not rearrange windows.  It merely separates them out to let you choose one, and then once you select it, the windows all snap back to where they were, only with the selected window on the top.

     

    You cannot change the appearance of the scroll bar, but I still have no idea how that has any impact on being able to keep track of your windows.