3 Replies Latest reply: May 1, 2012 11:11 PM by MichiHenning
sunshiner Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

I'm starting to create multi-touch iBooks using iBA. Some of those books may be published by me, others will be published by other entities, but none is likely to be offered FREE, so all will need ISBN. At least one of those entities wants me to provide the ISBN, if possible, and I would like to do that as part of the service I offer.

 

I need to know whether I can buy a block of ISBN and then allocate the numbers to books I create, even if I am not the publisher of some of those books. So for example could I use one of the block for my own publishing need, then another of that block for an entity which wishes to publish only one e-book (which I create), and so on? I also need to know if the ISBN in the block which is purchased have an expiry date (ie can I use the block as required over a year or more?). I can't find answers to the above on the ISBN supplier website (Australia) so thought the wise people on this forum may be able to assist. Thanks.


Noosa, Australia
  • 1. Re: ISBN bought in blocks, different publishers possible?
    MichiHenning Level 4 Level 4 (1,350 points)

    You can buy a block of ISBNs and give those ISBNs away to other people. An ISBN contains a publisher code that identifies the publisher. That publisher is the same for all ISBNs in the block. You can update the publisher details after the fact, but doing so will affect all ISBNs with that publisher number.

     

    If you list the ISBNs in the BowkerLink database (doing so is optional), they will show whatever publisher belongs to the code that was assigned to you.

     

    If the people who publish books with ISBNs they obtain from you don't mind having you listed as the publisher (assuming they want to be listen in BowkerLink), there is no problem.

     

    If you list ISBNs, you should keep them up to date, meaning that the people who have obtained an ISBN from you will need to contact you to make any updates.

     

    In fact, that is exactly what ePub Bud do. They buy blocks of ISBNs and then onsell them cheaply to people who want to publish an eBook.

     

    Michi.

  • 2. Re: ISBN bought in blocks, different publishers possible?
    sunshiner Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    Wow, that was quick. Thanks Michi, very informative.

     

    Are there any likely problems when we come to send the client's iBook to Apple if the publisher identified in the ISBN is different from the publisher identified in the EIN allocated by US IRS? I ask because the client for one of the books I'm creating has acquired an EIN specifically to sell this book, is a self publisher, and would like to use an ISBN which I provide because this will likely be the only book of any sort he will put up for sale.

  • 3. Re: ISBN bought in blocks, different publishers possible?
    MichiHenning Level 4 Level 4 (1,350 points)

    sunshiner wrote:

     

    Are there any likely problems when we come to send the client's iBook to Apple if the publisher identified in the ISBN is different from the publisher identified in the EIN allocated by US IRS? I ask because the client for one of the books I'm creating has acquired an EIN specifically to sell this book, is a self publisher, and would like to use an ISBN which I provide because this will likely be the only book of any sort he will put up for sale.

    I don't know what Apple's consistency requirements are regarding the publisher EIN and the publisher code in the ISBN. ePub Bud seem to imply that you can use their $5 ISBNs with the iBookstore, so I would assume that it is possible. To be sure, I would send a question to ePub Bud and specifically ask them what you should set the publisher name and EIN to when you submit a book and whether there are any problems if the publisher for the EIN differs from the publisher in the ISBN number.

     

    Just guessing, I wouldn't expect any problems. The publisher code in an ISBN is not easily available. You can buy a catalog that shows all the publisher numbers, but it costs several hundred dollars. It seems unlikely that Apple would care. I suspect that all they care about is that the book has an ISBN, and that the publisher is legitimate with a valid EIN.

     

    Final thought: rather than buying your own block of ISBNs, you could just buy ISBNs from ePub Bud and use those for your customers. Seems less hassle overall. I would make it clear to them though that, if they want to be listed in the Bowker database, that the publisher will be ePub Bud and that, for updates, they will have to go through you.

     

    Michi.