10 Replies Latest reply: May 4, 2012 6:39 AM by The hatter
Les22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Just rec'd a new(er) to me Mac Pro 1.1 w/no HD & possibly bad video card 8GB memory and very dirty inside. To test this mac, I put in a new seagate barracuda SATA 1TB HD, hooked up display and tried to fire it up. Got to chime in and then the display showed a grey screen w/file folder with a question mark on it. Only had a mouse last night when trying this and my G5 has a bluetooth keyboard and the mac pro isn't bluetooth, so where do I go from here? I'm thinking a wired keybrd would allow me to open drive bay to receive Leopard Install disc that I already own and proceed from there? I figure, once I can get this up and running and know there is no problems, I'll dismantel and clean. Any suggestion on any of this?? Also all 8 GB memory was installed on the top riser card? I reset the memory banks to 2 on the top card and 2 on the bottom card as this is what the downloaded manual shows, am I reading that right? Dang, I thought this would be cut and dried, no such luck....


Mac Pro
  • 1. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    The RAM has to be in matched pairs so as long as you have 4 x 2GB? should be fine.

     

    Some people have had defective lower Riser or issue using both but you'll have to check.

     

    10.5.x DVD should be fine in most cases (depends on what graphic card). X1900s clog with dust constantly and need regularly be pulled to clean.  If you needed to buy then Amazon has 10.6.3 for $44 while Apple has it for $29. If you did need a graphic card, then you may need 10.6.5 and be looking at ATI 5770 or something.

     

    Any USB keyboard - handy to have, none of the issues with BT.

  • 2. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    Les22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks hatter. Is there a short cut that I can use to open the DVD/CD drive on the mac pro? I brought home a lenovo wired keybrd from work to see what I could do w/it. I thought if I can get the drive tray open then put in the Leopard CD, I could get this up and running....Other choice might be to pull a drive from my G5, put the new seagate in it, clone it to the G5's boot drive, remove it and reinstall the new drive back into the mac pro? The video card 7300 gt has one bad connector (supposedly) and the display is supposed to still operate, but with a greenish tint to the display (all this info from seller on eBay!) OR could I use my seagate go flex ext HD with my G5 back up to "restore" to the mac pro (didn't really want to load that much stuff on it, but.... New Snow Leopard discs on the way, but from an eBayer also, and these are from a macbook pro but are from Apple to him and are unused, I figured to use these to update the Leopard OS, Dang, too much going thru my head.....ha ha ha Anyways thanks in advance for any and all help offered! Les

  • 3. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    7300GTs can have a bad capacitor

     

    holding mouse down on startup signals to open the bay door

     

    holding Option key halts to choose what to boot from and option to eject also

     

    you can't restore a system from a G5. Sometimes just the presence of a G5 system causes trouble on startup.

     

    MacVidCards for aftermarket gpu

     

    you should stay off ebay I think and use Apple or Amazon like I mentioned. OEM DVD for OS X are Mac specific - really.

     

    As I said above buy the SL 10.6.3 DVD.

  • 4. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    Les22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Got it up and running tonight!!! Everything seems fine for now. Had to force the DVD drive w/paperclip to open, Installed Leopard from a retail disc I had and I'm one happy camper! Only thing is, I got confused on the install screen about internet connection, it didn't offer me an option for an Airport choice? After it finished the install and restarted, I went to system profile to look for the card connection and it shows "Nothing found", any suggestions here?? Hey Thanks for being there for me, I really appreciate it and yes, I'm aware of "MacVidCards" I talked to him thru eBay! Yup, agree with you on eBay, but I have gotten really lucky here as I never could've had a mac pro any other way, trust me I've looked. I never would've thought of giving up my G5 as I had never had many problems with it or the bluetooth either (except KB batteries! LOL!) just couldn't go any further with the software applications that I use pretty regularly and this one will only take me so far, I'm sure.....

  • 5. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    mooblie Level 4 Level 4 (1,925 points)

    Les22 wrote:

     

    .......it didn't offer me an option for an Airport choice? After it finished the install and restarted, I went to system profile to look for the card connection and it shows "Nothing found", any suggestions here??.....

     

    Airport cards are an option on the MacPro.  Sounds like your MacPro doesn't have one?

     

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Airport-Extreme-802-11n-Modelle/dp/B0053C13D8/r ef=cm_cr_pr_product_top

  • 6. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    Les22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes moobie, the airport is present on the board. However, it's not showing up in the system profiler or on the upper right in the menu bar. This mac needs a SERIOUS cleaning, perhaps I'll see/learn more while doing such. "Suggestions on cleaning methods and this Airport issue now being accepted!!" ha ha ha Thanks all for the previous and future help/suggestions that you all offer

  • 7. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    A good start on cleaning around electronics:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001J4ZOAW/

  • 8. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    Les22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Also, I am going to try to install Snow Leopard sometime today and see what it looks like and try to make a final decision on the OS I'll use! Thinking about the Lion upgrade also? Opinions?

  • 9. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    Les22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks hatter, but I'm not too sure that air blowers or vacs are going to be the complete answer in this case! This unit looks like it has been stored, uncovered, in my barn for the last couple of years or so. Boards and parts seem to not only be rather dusty, but covered in a "greasy"(?) dark "film"!! I'm "along the lines" as this is going to take a spray "degreaser" or "direct contact" to remove, but I'm not liking either of those choices til i listen to more on the subject. I have two good choices in air blowers, compressors actually, #1 a stand up air compressor (think for tools and such) but will have to add a water trap (should've done it anyway!) or #2 my airbrush compressor. Thoughts??

  • 10. Re: on start up, mac pro displays a file folder and question mark
    The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,880 points)

    Was just one tool to get one layer. Nicotine can also act like glue and bind particles.

     

    The blower I linked has been fine and designed for use around computers.

     

    There are youtube on how to take apart and clean a Mac Pro that probably worth viewing, including one that showed the inside of PSU empacted with "dust" and there are photos too, one of the insides of a G5 was down-right scary!

     

    Just read where older versions of Ofiice and patched products but there are still people that have never upgraded and didnt think they needed to until the recent news stories. And Apple stopped shipping patches to Leopard over a year ago I think.

     

    Some good links it seems:

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=mac+pro+psu+dust

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq2LHDMFmHw

     

    How to protect from future dust

    http://forum.hardmac.com/index.php?&showtopic=5141

     

    Some people have not seen old thermal paste gone bad and while dusting does not help, in some cases (even the new Intel Ivy Bridge it seems) and some GPUs, redoing thermal paste done right can be a good idea especially after years of use.

     

    http://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/86528/Mac+Pro+%282006%29+Power+supply-replace

     

    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems.html