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May 10, 2012 5:54 AM

I'm a very non-sophisiticated user of Aperture and up until a few days ago, backed up my library by doing a drag and drop copy of my library from an external firewire drive to an external USB drive. Then I read about "Vault" and  thought that would be the better way to go. So I went out and bought two 1TB USB external drives (My Passport drives from Western Digital), formatted both to be MAC compatible,   attached both to my macbook pro and set out to create the vaults. I let things run overnight and when all was said and done, here is what I see in Aperture:




My question is: Why do the two vaults look different?? Aperture Vault1 shows that creating the vault leaves me with 879.6GB available while doing the exact same backup on Aperture Vault2 leaves only 680.2GB on that otherwise identical drive? Also, Aperture vault1 shows a little green bar which I presume indicates a percentage of the drive used while I dont' see that for aperture vault2. The "bar" for aperture vault2 is split into 2 sections and while the same is true for aperture vault1, the size of the smaller component is much larger on the aperture vault2 drive. Does this mean that there is something else residing on the aperture vault2 drive? When I open the drives on my desktop, I don't see any contents other than the vault that was created. I'm confused...


Any help woudl be appreciated.





macbook pro 2.4 GHz Intel, Mac OS X (10.6.5)
  • Shuttleworth125 Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
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    May 10, 2012 7:29 AM (in response to david meyer)

    Have you checked the Vaults size using finder, e.g. do a Get Info ?


    Was there anything on the vault2 drive before you created the vault? Have you deleted it but not emptied system trash?

  • Shuttleworth125 Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
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    May 10, 2012 9:32 AM (in response to david meyer)

    I assume it's a managed library? If so it looks like theres a lot missing from vault1, possibly no masters are in the vault. You can look inside the vault in Finder to see what the differences are, right click>show package contents, there should be a folder in there called "masters", (I'm not near a mac so I can't check) do a Get Info on this folder in both vaults and see if there is a difference in size.


    To be honest a vault is supposed to be a reliable backup that you can trust butsomething strange has gone wrong with vault1 by the looks of it (and assuming a manged library) I'd just delete it and start again, see f it's the same as vault2 afterwards.

  • Shuttleworth125 Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
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    May 11, 2012 10:12 PM (in response to david meyer)

    Is your library wholly a managed one or are your older images referenced? If you have referenced images they won't be backed up to the vault and you'll get a warning before the vault runs:


    "The xxx images imported by reference are not included in this vault and should be backed up separately."

  • Shuttleworth125 Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
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    May 12, 2012 4:13 PM (in response to david meyer)

    Cloud storage is going to be time consuming and expensive , I'd also treat it as an additional backup, not a main one at the moment, retreiving a lot of gigs of data from the cloud is going to take a loooong time!!


    You have two external drives now, in that situation, I'd back them up with vaults then leave one at a different location, work, friend, family member etc. Keep backing up to the other one and swap them over once a week/month/whatever.


    This won't give you a seperate backup of your masters. An easy way to start keeping masters outside of Aperture is to use the "Backup Location" option when importing to Aperture. It copies the images to a normal finder folder structure of your choosing to whatever location you choose. You have plenty of room on your new external drives so no reason at the moment why you can't use the space on them for doing this, the drives don't have to be dedicated to just using for vaults, but you may consider another drive just for this purpose.


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