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Apr 12, 2011 4:53 AM in response to Tristan Merrittby Michael Black,Sorry, no, there is no way to disable the ability to power off the iPhone.
It is one of the limitations of any sort of find-my-device approach - the device must be on and it must be within range of some form of network data connection.
Also note that if a thief is savvy enough to know to power off an iPhone to disable find-my-iPhone, he probably also knows to not power it back on until he is somewhere where it cannot make a network connection. Then he can muck about with it at his ease. At the least, he can just restore it as new, and then your stuff is gone including find-my-iPhone settings, and it is his to do with as he pleases.
While find-my-iPhone is a good feature with some valid use, it is simply not something you should count on to find a lost or stolen device - it is not at all infallible. -
Apr 12, 2011 5:04 AM in response to Michael Blackby Tristan Merritt,Hmm that is something apple needs to work on!
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Nov 22, 2011 3:20 AM in response to Tristan Merrittby apost,absolutely agree...the device should require the passcode to allow someone to switch it off..sounds terribly simple, right? that way find my iPhone would have some real use apart from finding it when it's on silent or under a pillow...
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Nov 22, 2011 3:23 AM in response to apostby wjosten,And exactly how would that work, given the fact that the sleep/wake button is a hardware switch, not a software switch.
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Nov 22, 2011 3:41 AM in response to wjostenby Dave Hutch,Sleep isn't the same as off though is it.
Whilst asleep, Find My iPhone still works.
By holding the Home and Sleep buttons until the slider appears, Apple could then build in a passcode request to switch the phone off.
Not a bad idea
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Nov 22, 2011 3:45 AM in response to Dave Hutchby wjosten,Dave,
You can turn the phone off by pressing both the sleep/wake button & home button at the same time. As I've said. they are hardware switches, not software.
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Nov 22, 2011 3:48 AM in response to wjostenby Dave Hutch,Yes they are, but the operation to turn the phone off is software controlled. They are not hardware pole switches which disconnnect the battery
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Nov 22, 2011 3:55 AM in response to Dave Hutchby wjosten,And exactly how, using software, do you prevent someone from pressing both the sleep/wake button & home button at the same time to turn the phone off?
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Nov 22, 2011 4:05 AM in response to wjostenby Dave Hutch,You can't. But what you can do is, when the buttons have been pressed, tell the operating system to take the dual button button press as a request to switch off the phone. At that point you tell the OS to generate a passcode request screen.
Currently the OS takes the dual button press as a simple request to power down the phone and just switchesit off with no validation
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Nov 22, 2011 4:08 AM in response to Dave Hutchby wjosten,Ain't gonna happen, given the fact that you use this technique to also troubleshoot a non-performing iPhone.
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Nov 22, 2011 4:50 AM in response to Dave Hutchby wjosten,The reality is, given the present iOS & physical design of an iPhone, there is no practical way to prevent a thief from turning the device off. Thieves seem to be smarter than users, and all seem to know they only have to turn the phone off to defeat Find My Phone.
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May 15, 2012 4:11 PM in response to Tristan Merrittby richardfromsheffield,So there is a way, and I realise this may be coming a year late, this only applies to Jailbroken idevices also. An app called iLocalis.
iLocalis is and app that transmits the location of the phone discretely at set intervals to a server, it had user defined intervals and a web access terminal much the same as Find My iPhone HOWEVER it has an option to disable the power off button.
With the disable power off enabled you can hold the power button until you are blue in the face and get nowhere but locking the iPhone. Also, holding the home and power button will trigger a soft reset, but the iPhone will power on to the pass code screen regardless. The only way to prevent the phone being tracked with iLocalis under Jailbreak are:
Remove the sim card, location would be stored on the phone and uploaded at next date connection.
Wait until the phone dies.
The buttons themselves are prices of hardware, but they don't Activate hardware on the phone, it's just a machine executing a command on the iOS so it can be changed, by Apple... Or a jailbreak developer. Of which I am not.
Hope this helps! ( for my first post )
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May 15, 2012 4:26 PM in response to richardfromsheffieldby razmee209,As your first post - you should have read the forum TOS - not allowed to talk about jailbroken phones in these forums.