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how can I add Up/Down arrows to the scroll bar in Lion

3628 Views 11 Replies Latest reply: Apr 29, 2013 9:05 AM by Julia125 RSS
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May 18, 2012 11:35 PM

I have to say that switching to Lion has not been the joy I was led to believe. One of the most annoying of the many annoying quirks of Lion is that the right hand Scroll Bar no longer has Up/Down arrows, just a stupid and hard to see gray bar of varying length, and controling it is a nightmare. Does anyone know anything about how to add Up/Down arrows to the scroll bars? Is there some setting. Apple, if you're listening, please restore this essential funcition to your OS. The lack of Up/Down arrows in the scroll bar makes Lion more like an alley cat.

Mac Pro dual quad 3ghz, G5 Power PC dual 2 Ghz, Macbook Pro 2.6Ghz, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • sig Level 8 Level 8 (35,770 points)

    This is not Apple. This is a user forum. System Preferences>General. Select Always in the scroll bar box.

  • sig Level 8 Level 8 (35,770 points)

    In Lion there are no arrows. If you want arrows post here:

  • leroydouglas Level 6 Level 6 (13,315 points)
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    May 20, 2012 6:30 PM (in response to sig)

    For the time being you have to use the Up/Down arrows on the keyboard.


    Throw in the option and command keys for alternate behavior.

    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), 2.4GHz IntelCorei5 320GB HD 8GB RAM
  • Donald Worrell Level 4 Level 4 (1,785 points)

    the main point of lion is to make the desktop os and the handheld os the same.  now making a touch screen and a desktop use the same control functions causes some user trama.  It took me awhile to get use to the way lion worked on my imac.  The one thing I did was turn the scroll bars to come on when I am scrolling.  But over all I have gotten use to the new way of doing things.  Touch screens are here to stay and we old desktop users have to get with it to stay in "touch".

  • Julia125 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)




    Let me know which way (notice the red circle's) you want them and I will send you the right terminal commands.


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  • leroydouglas Level 6 Level 6 (13,315 points)

    Hmmm.... that screen shot does not appear to be LIon. Caveat emptor.

    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), 2.4GHz IntelCorei5 320GB HD 8GB RAM
  • Julia125 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)




    You are right, I checked and this is from a previous OSX.

    I did try the terminal commands, also with a restart but it did not work. Sorry for that.


    The only option left as far as I am concerned is to buy a trackpad. Works great.





  • Mikehkg Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just upgraded from 10.6x to 10.7.4. I found peace after discovering the "classic" setting in the prefs for Mail but my browsing experience has been suffering with the new scroll bar. The finder can't even display the same folder in 2 separate windows with 2 different sort orders.


    It is certainly a challenge to add 200+ new functions every year but a few less would do if in turn it does not reduce simplicity.

  • Sharon Goodman Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Hey Julia!   I would LOVE to have the terminal command to restore the scroll bar arrows.  I prefer arrows at each end.   I do miss them. Holding down my mouse to move 'just a little bit" is making my hand numb.


    Thanks.  Sharon

  • Julia125 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi Sharon,



    Below is the explanation in Dutch. It is quit an old post and I am not entirely shure it will work.

    Parts are in English and parts in Dutch but you can translate with Google and you will get understand the post.


    Good luck.


    De OS X schuifpijlen aanpassen middel van de weergave instellingen in de systeemvoorkeuren kan je de plaatsing van de schuifpijlen wijzigen. Je vind deze optie terug in  ▸ Systeemvoorkeuren ▸ Weergave ▸ Plaats schuifpijlen.

    In deze voorkeuren heb je de mogelijk om te kiezen uit de twee mogelijkheden: Plaats schuifpijlen ‘bij elkaar’ of ‘boven en onder in het venster’.

    Naast deze twee standaard instellingen kan je met behulp van OS X Terminal nog twee alternatieve opties activeren. Om een of andere heeft Apple namelijk twee extra opties weggelaten uit de grafische interface.

    Hieronder vind je een overzicht van de mogelijkheden en de bijbehorende Terminal commando’s

    • DoubleMax

     ▸ Systeemvoorkeuren ▸ Weergave ▸ Plaats schuifpijlen – bij elkaar

    defaults write -g AppleScrollBarVariant -string DoubleMax; killall Finder

    • Single

     ▸ Systeemvoorkeuren ▸ Weergave ▸ Plaats schuifpijlen – boven en onder

    defaults write -g AppleScrollBarVariant -string Single; killall Finder

    • DoubleBoth

    defaults write -g AppleScrollBarVariant -string DoubleBoth; killall Finder

    De optie DoubleBoth activeert dubbele scrollbar pijlen links, rechts, boven en onder van de scroll-sliders.

    • DoubleMin

    defaults write -g AppleScrollBarVariant -string DoubleMin; killall Finder

    De optie DoubleMin plaatst dubbele scrollbar pijlen links en boven van de scroll-sliders.





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