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Safari Freezing Up (LION OSX)

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  • Michael Crabb Calculating status...
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    Apr 8, 2012 6:05 AM (in response to Michael Crabb)

    In case anyone is still following, my problem wasn't with Safari at all (I don't think). It was signaling an impending hard drive failure.

     

    My next step and last resort with Safari was to wipe the hard drive and do a clean system install and reload apps. The  whole 9 yards, back to square one. That is when I discovered that the HD was failing the SMART status. So, put in a new HD and restored from backup from about a week before I noticed any of these problems just in case I picked up that Flashback Trojan and that was the cause.

     

    Safari's back to my farorite browser.

  • jbollyn Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 12, 2012 6:08 PM (in response to JamVirgo)

    Safari freezes every day on my 27" iMac. As a Windows network admin, I can say I am disappointed with this very pretty elegant but horribly unreliable platform. All software updates installed.

     

    I never have this kind of trouble on any of my winXP or win7 machines. I am responsible for many machines on my network.

     

    I am glad this is just a fun machine on my home network. I am not trying to actually do work on it.

     

    Ver. 10.7.3, 8GB RAM.

  • fr8tdog Calculating status...
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    Apr 15, 2012 10:58 PM (in response to JamVirgo)

    I've been monitoring this post from the beginning and having the same problem. Leaving Safari running without any input with mouse or keyboard and eventually everything would freeze.

     

    One of my plugins "was" SweetProductions Safari Cookies, which I recently had some problems with. Upgrades to Safari sometimes required me to re-install and after the past few Safari upgrades it just didn't work as it was suposed to. I uninstalled Safari Cookies and purchased 'Cookies' on the App Store (same developer, Sweet Productions) and now... Safari is faster, no freezes, and life is good!

  • ldbarr Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 17, 2012 8:32 AM (in response to fr8tdog)

    I have experienced similar problems; they seemed to variably persist despite updating, re-installing Lion OS to 7.3, and affirming the hard drive using disk utility. I also downloaded and verified the trojan horse removal tool.

     

    I found that my flash player was out of date today. Having updated it, the computer seems to be working properly. Perhaps this is the underlying cause of current problems.

     

    Should the problems recur, I will update this message.

  • fr8tdog Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 17, 2012 8:40 AM (in response to fr8tdog)

    Alas, the problem still occurs. If I leave Safari running for an extended time without any user input, everything just freezes. Trackpad pointer moves but no response from ant input from the trackpad or keyboard. Therefore, cannot force quit any app including Safari and must turn off the iMac by holding down the start button and then restarting. This seems to be a bad way to to do this and not sure what, if any damage it is doing to my OS, drive, or computer. Very frustrating.

  • Walmo Calculating status...
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    Apr 18, 2012 2:53 PM (in response to JamVirgo)

    The problem, widely known by users, seems to be a mystery to Apple and to the people in the local Apple Store. No one had the problem with Safari in Snow Leopard but with Lion....  I have no memory issue, no Flash issues, no issues at all - just the Safari freezes.  It also seemed to appear right after the last Safari update. No matter what new software updates have come along, nothing has addressed this problem nor has any alleviated it.  It's annoying to say the least and is being ignored by Apple.  But I guess for $29.99 one can't expect much. 

  • Bruce Barton1 Calculating status...
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    May 22, 2012 6:59 AM (in response to JamVirgo)

    Open console and leave it running (Applications->Utilities->Console).  When the system freezes, click on the console window and wait.  My system can take up to 5 minutes to change windows.  Make tea.  Look for the errors.  Do you see com.apple.mdworker?  I think this is Spotlight.  I think it it the cause of all of the freezes, but will need some feedback from others to confirm.  The Time Machine freeze also seems to be Spotlight, see

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3113129

  • Saint Hendy Calculating status...
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    May 22, 2012 6:19 PM (in response to Saint Hendy)

    I had my computer picked up by Apple Care after numerous phone calls regarding this issue.

     

    I was advised, after three days of checking components and software, that the fault was caused by Drobo/Drobo Dashboard.

     

    I dont know if this will apply to everyone in this thread, but if you have a Drobo I would suggest removing the dashboard app.

  • jbollyn Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 26, 2012 9:02 AM (in response to Bruce Barton1)

    I have been leaving console open. This is very important, because when hard reboot is required, the most recent console entries are lost. I am pretty sure my Safari crashes are caused by Flash, so I have uninstalled it. If I am crash-free for a week or so, we will know.

     

    The last entry logged to console after crash is kernel data underrun.

     

    There is a good discussion of Flash problems in Lion here:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3232823?start=0&tstart=0

     

    There does not seem to be a way to run Flash on Lion systems right now. I attribute this to the bad blood and lack of cooperation between Adobe and Apple.

  • fced Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jun 27, 2012 7:12 AM (in response to JamVirgo)

    Same for me, ...

    When lot of tabs open, safari freeze the macbook pro i5 2.4ghz mid 2012...

    It was better on Snow Leopard, and more Better on Leopard...

    I notified also Flash player, eating cpu time... 40-80 % on speedtest.net...

     

    With or without drobo it's the same... even with an clean install of Osx Lion, and the Apple standard config, Safari is freezing LIon...

  • Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,845 points)
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    Jun 27, 2012 1:53 PM (in response to JamVirgo)

    I never use tabs because they use too much RAM and slow my old Mac.

     

    I suspect your problem will go away if you refrain from using tabs and use bookmarks instead.

  • Adam Blainey Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jun 27, 2012 2:36 PM (in response to Neville Hillyer)

    Hi all, there are two main issues here in my opinion. Flash runs abysmally in Safari these days. It's the #1 issue. I even have problems running YouTube now in Safari. I have read that opting in to YouTube's HTML5 trial program helps, but I'm not convinced. It's a start on the right path, though. The more people that use HTML5 on YouTube, the faster they'll develop that tech.

     

    #2 issue could well be RAM. I don't think not using tabs is an aceptable response to this issue. I cannot work well with only a single browser window open. However, if you have limited RAM, that may be your only recourse. I just upgraded my 2007 17" MBP from 4 GB to 8GB RAM and it has made an incredible difference. If you are having this issue, I recommend maxing out your RAM. I did so for $70 so it is a very affordable way to breathe life back into Safari.

  • Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,845 points)
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    Jun 28, 2012 2:43 AM (in response to Adam Blainey)

    Adam Blainey wrote:

     

    #2 issue could well be RAM. I don't think not using tabs is an aceptable response to this issue. I cannot work well with only a single browser window open. However, if you have limited RAM, that may be your only recourse. I just upgraded my 2007 17" MBP from 4 GB to 8GB RAM and it has made an incredible difference. If you are having this issue, I recommend maxing out your RAM. I did so for $70 so it is a very affordable way to breathe life back into Safari.

     

    I was not as clear as I could have been. I often have several windows open. Whilst an open window consumes the same RAM as a tab I find that most people tend not to open as many windows as they might have tabs. Most tab users are unaware that every tab is, from the point of view of memory use, the same as an open window - they each need a considerable amount of memory.

     

    I do not have Safari 5.1 but I understand that it regularly refreshes all tabs and open windows consuming considerable network and CPU resources and, on occasions, losing form data from partially completed forms on tabs. There is a hack which can inhibit this behaviour.

  • fced Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jun 28, 2012 7:16 AM (in response to Neville Hillyer)

    common my friend, macbook pro now are built with 4GO of Ram...

    It's not an ram problem... It's an code problem bad code from Apple - RIP STEVE.

    Photoshop work perfectly on Leopard, Snow Leopard, and Lion with 4 GO Ram, and Safari will not work ? ???

    Hahahahah

    Tomorrow to use Safari, or the apple system we will need 100 GO or RAM + Ram disk of 500Tera + 50000 Tera of Virtual memory (disk memory)

    And Lion is the most sophisticated system of the world... let me laugh...

    35 years I'm mac user ... and from Macos9 we lost functionnality at each version....

    More than this ...

    Lion is an multitask system, so why safari is freezing the entire computer....

     

     

     

    ps : there is a reason if production computers/peoples are staying on Leopard...

    ps2 : 400 tabs open on Safari and Snow leopard, and everything is working well - if i click safari it took less than one second to be active app.... What are you saying of this guys (it's on my MacPro with 16go of Ram ok 16 go in comparison to 4 go, but browsers should not eat the ram/cpu in compareason of pao prod softwares...:))

  • Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,845 points)
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    Jun 28, 2012 7:41 AM (in response to fced)

    I wish I could advise moving to Linux but my latest Ubuntu was junk!

     

    I have very few problems with Safari 5.0.6 on a 733 MHz G4+ with 1.5 GB RAM and OS X 10.5.8

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