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Time Machine exclusions do not work.

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Richard Pitcairn Level 2 Level 2 (255 points)
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May 26, 2012 1:11 PM

This is a continued problem over several weeks. I have called Apple about it without solving the issue. I have some very large backup files in user/library/application support. For several programs the backup folder within the folder for that app will be gigabytes in size. So I have excluded them in TM, have confirmed that they are indeed listed there. Problem is that they are still backed up every hour that TM runs.

I have deleted, manually, ALL the listed exclusions and started over adding them one by one - same result.

When I called Apple I forget what they had me do (was a few weeks ago). I think it was to delete the sparsebundle and start freshly. But, whatever, the same thing still happens.

I am backing up to Time Capsule.

Any suggestions?

 

Richard

MacBook Pro 15 inch, 2.53 GHz, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 8 GB memory
  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    May 26, 2012 5:17 PM (in response to Richard Pitcairn)

    Sounds like the preferences file (where the exclusions are stored, among other things) may be damaged.  Try a "full reset" of Time Machine, per #A4 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    May 27, 2012 9:59 AM (in response to Richard Pitcairn)

    Rats. 

     

    There have been a few cases where a folder was damaged somehow, and Time Machine would either not back it up at all, or would always back it up.  I haven't seen any of these in a while, and nobody, including Apple, seems to know just what's wrong, but perhaps that's what's going on here.

     

    Can you determine just which folders seem to be affected?  One of the apps in #A2 of Time Machine - Troubleshooting will show exactly what's getting backed-up each time.

     

    If one is consistent, try renaming it, makeing a new folder of exactly the same name, then moving the contents to it.  Then see what happens. 

     

    To save some time, if large files are involved, you might try excluding them individually, then making some small test files (with TextEdit or the like), and removing the exclusion of the containing folder.  Then run a backup; the first time, of course, the new file should be backed-up, but the second, it shouldn't.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    May 27, 2012 10:14 AM (in response to Richard Pitcairn)

    I'm not familiar with MacJournal, but if the problem is with the folder, I doubt your test file(s) needs to be recognized by it.

     

    However, if the only files you're having problems with are from that app, that would be a big, hairy clue.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    May 27, 2012 3:35 PM (in response to Richard Pitcairn)

    Very strange.

     

    Did you try putting some test files, not connected to MacJournal, in that folder, to see how they get handled? 

     

    It almost sounds like MacJournal is somehow overriding the exclusions. 

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    May 27, 2012 7:13 PM (in response to Richard Pitcairn)

    Then it really is the folder.    Very weird.

     

    I should have asked earlier:  when you made the new folder, did you copy or duplicate it?  If so, that might have copied whatever's wrong with it.  Try making one "from scratch."

     

    And do that while MacJournal isn't running, either, so there's no chance it can be doing anything to it, and don't start it until you've done the backup testing.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    May 27, 2012 8:15 PM (in response to Richard Pitcairn)

    Richard Pitcairn wrote:

     

    I made a new folder and dragged the files into it. Then deleted the original folder.

    Hmm.  I'm mystified. 

     

     

    I don't remember if MacJournal was open, I don't think so.

    It shouldn't matter, of course. 

     

    Think I should check with the MacJournal developer?

    I guess it's worth a try, but I sure wouldn't hold my breath.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,710 points)
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    May 28, 2012 11:07 AM (in response to Richard Pitcairn)

    Actually, that's a clue. 

     

    It's not just MacJournal files (a very long shot anyway), or a common problem -- very few such posts here.

     

    It's beinginning to sound like something damaged in your installation of OSX.  Try installing the 10.6.8 "combo" update, per Installing the ''combo'' update and/or Reinstalling OSX.   Do a "reset" (deleting and recreating the preferences file) before doing the next backup.

     

    If that doesn't help, try installing a fresh copy of OSX (that won't disturb anything else), per the same article.  Also do a "reset" before the next backup.

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