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Moving to iCloud will delete my Smart Mailboxes?

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kcreative Calculating status...
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May 3, 2012 12:57 PM

Currently, I read that moving to iCloud will delete all of my Smart Mailboxes. I have about 40 of them and I own a business and this feature helps me organize my emails. I haven't moved to iCloud for this reason. They say the deadline is June 30th. Is there any way that Apple will leave this feature in once I move to iCloud?

Mail, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (81,650 points)
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    May 3, 2012 1:05 PM (in response to kcreative)

    Welcome to the Apple Community.

     

    So far as I am aware, smart mailboxes are independent of mail accounts, where have you read this.

  • TZ Calculating status...
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    May 3, 2012 1:43 PM (in response to kcreative)

    I don't see why this would be as Smart Mailboxes are a function of Mail.app as far as I know Lion's Mail.app still has this feature.

     

    Here is a page I found doing a quick Google

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-create-smart-mailboxes-in-mac-os-x- lion.html

  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (81,650 points)
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    May 3, 2012 1:49 PM (in response to kcreative)

    I really do not know what you have read, or indeed what apple support have told you, however it sounds entirely wrong to me. I used smart mailboxes a long time before Lion and iCloud, and they are still there now that I have switched to Lion and iCloud.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,255 points)
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    May 3, 2012 5:07 PM (in response to kcreative)

    kcreative wrote:

     

    TZ...currently I am in Lion 10.7.3 and using Smart Mailboxes and they work great. But what I was told that onceI move to iCloud, Smart Mailboxes won't be available.

    I use Lion, iCloud Mail, Mail.app and smart mailboxes ... they work fine.

  • lj2585 Calculating status...
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    May 29, 2012 4:10 PM (in response to kcreative)

    I was about to finally update to iCloud when I froze seeing the "Smart Mailboxes" listed on the warnings...I spent 10 minutes on chat with Apple Support...and they too told me that Smart Mailboxes were not working with iCloud and (believe it or not) referred me to THIS PAGE in the forums for a more complete answer!  Anyway...in reading that some have updated to iCloud and still have Smart Mailboxes that work (and asking the Chat person whether that would extend after June 30...to which she didn't have an answer!#$%*#@#$!!!! - who have they turned into....Miscrosoft????)  ANYWAY...I went back, slowed down and actually READ the warning (and the Learn More link) and I believe the answer is that they will no longer SYNC after iCloud.  It didn't make sense to me that iCloud could interfere with the workings of the Mail Application itself...but I'll be interested to see other responses.  For now, I believe that the issue is not that they will be DELETED...but they WILL NOT SYNC.  Will be happy to hear from other users.....

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,255 points)
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    May 29, 2012 4:29 PM (in response to lj2585)

    lj2585 wrote:

     

    I was about to finally update to iCloud when I froze seeing the "Smart Mailboxes" listed on the warnings...I spent 10 minutes on chat with Apple Support...and they too told me that Smart Mailboxes were not working with iCloud and (believe it or not) referred me to THIS PAGE in the forums for a more complete answer!  Anyway...in reading that some have updated to iCloud and still have Smart Mailboxes that work (and asking the Chat person whether that would extend after June 30...to which she didn't have an answer!#$%*#@#$!!!! - who have they turned into....Miscrosoft????)  ANYWAY...I went back, slowed down and actually READ the warning (and the Learn More link) and I believe the answer is that they will no longer SYNC after iCloud.  It didn't make sense to me that iCloud could interfere with the workings of the Mail Application itself...but I'll be interested to see other responses.  For now, I believe that the issue is not that they will be DELETED...but they WILL NOT SYNC.  Will be happy to hear from other users.....

    Smart mailboxes don't 'sync' in Lion, just as they did not 'sync' in Snow Leopard. A smart mailbox is merely a saved search, no mail is actually in it. Your smart mailbox searches should transfer to iCloud but even if they don't you can just make them again.

  • lj2585 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    May 29, 2012 5:23 PM (in response to Csound1)

    Well...if that's the case, then why does the screen say...QUOTE...  "These MobileMe features will not be available:  You will no longer be able to SYNC Mac Dashboard Widgets, Dock Items, Keychains, Preferences, Mail Accounts, Rules, SIgnatures and Smart Mailboxes after moving to iCloud"  Then they have a "Learn More" link http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4898, entitled "iCloud:  MobileMe services that no longer sync after moving to iCloud". 

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,255 points)
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    May 29, 2012 5:37 PM (in response to lj2585)

    I'm a user, not an Apple representative and I have no interest in arguing, if you don't think it will work don't migrate.

  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
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    May 29, 2012 11:36 PM (in response to lj2585)

    Smart mailboxes will not SYNC to other computers with iCloud, as they currently do with MobileMe.

     

    Smart mailboxes will not be deleted, nor are they going away. They just won't sync to anywhere else after moving to iCloud.

  • lj2585 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    May 30, 2012 12:45 AM (in response to Csound1)

    I wasn't trying to be argumentative...I was just asking why Apple is using the word "sync" so frequently if, as you say, they don't actually "sync".  Actually, I see another user just posted an answer that seems to answer both questions.

  • lj2585 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thank you...that seems to answer both of the questions I had. 

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,255 points)

    Hi Julian,

     

    Not to disagree but I have 6 smart mailboxes, all were created while I was using Mobile Me, they all transferred to iCloud when I migrated. They are present in Mail on all connected devices as well as on the iCloud website. The content of the mailboxes is identical from machine to machine, I don't think they are syncing, but the mail is because it is Imap, all the smart mailboxes have the same rules which explains why they 'appear' to stay in sync.

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