6 Replies Latest reply: Mar 27, 2013 11:36 AM by mamafuj
grjlynch Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have just installed Aperture on my iMac for the first time.  I also use Lightroom and Photoshop.

 

As such I want to keep the photo’s in the “Pictures” directory and not manage them within Apeture.

 

I have just tidied up some folders etc using finder and when I go into Lightroom I just press the “Synchronise” button and hey presto, the folders in Lightroom are aligned with the actual folders in the Pictures directory.

 

Can anyone tell me how I do the same in Aperture, as the changes I made to the folders/pictures are not reflected in Aperture’s directory?

 

(I have selected “Consolidate master file” in Aperture, not sure what it is doing, but it’s taking a long time!)

 

Many thanks

 

Confused 1st time Aperture user!

  • 1. Re: Managing pictures in Aperture and Adobe Lightroom
    William Lloyd Level 6 Level 6 (19,350 points)

    It's not so easy in Aperture to do this, as Aperture doesn't have a direct view into the file system like Lightroom does.  There's no real equivalent to "Synchronise."

     

    If you use managed files in Aperture, you can import into Aperture and have it store files inside your ~/Pictures folder.  Then if you synchronize that folder in Lightroom, and it will import them.

     

    Note, once you've done this, you should NEVER rename or move the files on disk, or they will get out of sync and you will have a real mess.  So you need to develop a workflow, and stick with it, and not fiddle, or you will go mad.

     

    Note if you delete photos in Aperture, then synchronizing Lightroom will cleanly remove them.  If you delete them from Lightroom, then Aperture will note they are missing referenced files.  You can then delete them from Aperture (you could also create a smart album in Aperture which would track missing referenced files, which would make it easier to do this more quickly).

     

    Consolidate masters is NOT what you want to do BTW.  If you do that, Aperture will move all the files into its library itself (which is a package file).  The next time you sync in Lightroom, all your files will disappear.

  • 2. Re: Managing pictures in Aperture and Adobe Lightroom
    grjlynch Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for this. Bummer I really hate the way Apple do this single file thing, maybe it's because I have grown up with Microsoft I can’t get my head around it.  Maybe this is why finder is so naff too.

     

    Yes I have already gone mad trying to realign my files/folders in Pictures and the Aperture view, almost impossible.

     

    I wanted to use the face recognition so I thought it would complement Lightroom and Photoshop, but I think it will be a disaster trying to use both.

     

    Shame, looked quite an easy product to use, by can't see that it is any better/worse than Lightroom, waste of £50!

     

    Kind regards

     

    Gary

  • 3. Re: Managing pictures in Aperture and Adobe Lightroom
    Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,915 points)

    Lightroom and Aperture accomplish nearly the same tasks.  Aperture, however, provides a deeper set of tools for Image-management.  This comes at the cost of file-management, which is the paradigm that you are comfortable with.

     

    Here is a recent post of mine with some comments and links re: the difference between file-management and image-management.  (Files can be in only one place at a time.  Images can be in many places at the same time.)

     

    I think if you looked hard you wouldn't find anyone who recommends using both Aperture and Lightroom to manage the same files.

  • 4. Re: Managing pictures in Aperture and Adobe Lightroom
    William Lloyd Level 6 Level 6 (19,350 points)

    Note that's not what I said: Aperture does not HAVE to store the files inside its library (called "managed images").  They can be anywhere on disk you want ("referenced images").  It is entirely possible to put the files in a single location and access them from both Aperture and Lightroom.

     

    Again, though, the key is discipline, as if you start moving them around or renaming them (via Finder, or via Aperture, or via Lightroom), you will have issues because both the applications expect that you use them to move or rename the files.  If you move/rename them in Aperture, you are "breaking" what Lightroom expects you to do, and vice versa.

     

    I think in large part it's not the best idea to try and use both Aperture and Lightroom.  What they do has a huge degree of overlap, so it's really best to pick one as your primary tool.  If you value Aperture's Faces functionality and interface, and perhaps its integration with other Apple products like iWork/iLife, or ease of synching pictures to iPad or integration with PhotoStream, it may be the better tool.  If you'd like to edit photos and maintain smart objects, and you like Lightroom's editing tools or rendering better, it may be the better tool.  There will be compromises either way, but from a sanity and workflow perspective it's probably better.  Both tools can produce outstanding results.

  • 5. Re: Managing pictures in Aperture and Adobe Lightroom
    Jadaml Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am in a similar postion.  I just got Aperture and was importing my entire folder structure when about 3/4 the way through the program crashed.  So now I have random folders that are uploaded and others that are not.  How do I go about importing the rest of my files without getting duplicates.

     

    I have tried to just do another import w/ the "do not import duplicates" option ticked, yet it sill imports duplicates... (not a very effective feature if you ask me)

     

    Do I just have to start from scratch importing my 2TB catalog?

  • 6. Re: Managing pictures in Aperture and Adobe Lightroom
    mamafuj Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just found this thread... I have a similar question:

    Does anyone know about sharing a photo library between multiple users?

     

    So if my family were to dump all of our pictures onto an external harddrive and then access these folders with pictures from our various devices (laptops mainly), is this even possible? We basically just want to have a unified family photo library.

     

    And then which app would you recommend for accessing the unified photo library? We have iphoto and aperture already on our laptops, would either of these work? Or would anyone recommend switching to lightroom?

    thanks-