8 Replies Latest reply: Jun 11, 2012 4:52 AM by KTGHowie
marizmendi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hi, hope somebody can help me with this issue

My company bought a brand new IMac 10.7 Osx an I need to make a conection from this machine to an old G3 with Mac Os 9 classic system where all my files are stored and even my Rip software resides.

 

When I try to make the conection a message appears telling me ¨the system is not supported¨ or something like that, so what can I do? Any way to make the conection?

 

No, no way to take my old Mac to the trash, my rip software only works on Classic 9 system...

 

Thanks in advance for any help


iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)
  • 1. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    Carolyn Samit Level 10 Level 10 (89,590 points)

    When I try to make the conection a message appears telling me ¨the system is not supported¨

     

    The new iMac has an Intel processor vs PowerPC for the G3.

     

    Sorry.. not going to work.

  • 2. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    Niel Level 10 Level 10 (241,935 points)

    You need to start File Sharing on the G3 and connect to it from Mac OS X 10.7. Mac OS 9 can't connect to Mac OS X 10.6 or 10.7 AFP servers; this is independent of the newer computer's CPU type, as Mac OS X 10.5 works in this situation.

     

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  • 3. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    marizmendi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Carolyn and Niel for responses,  I am thinking there is no way to make this conection to work

  • 4. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    Daniel O'Leary Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Niel:

     

    The problem is that Mac systems that are runing under Mac OS X 10.7x are not able to connect to the server running File Sharing under MacOS 9. I have replicated this same probem where I can connect to the Mac OS 9.2.2 system from a Mac OS X 10.5 system, but not from a Mac OS X 10.7 system.  The 10.7 system can connect to the File shares of the 10.5 System though.

  • 5. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,285 points)

    Would you be able to connect an external hard drive to the old G3 and drag the files to it, then copy them to the new one? As long as they're just files, that should work?

  • 6. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    KTGHowie Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    The issue is likely caused by Lion using a newer version of Apple File Protocol than the system that is running OS 9.  Also, OS 9 still uses Apple Talk.  Apple Talk hasn't been supported by Mac OS since Apple released Snow Leopard.  Here are some things to try:

     

    •  Try connecting to the OS 9 system through it's IP if you haven't already tried that.

     

    •  Try these steps that I found while trying to connect a Mac running Lion to a NAS drive that was also running an older version of AFP:  http://www.alexanderwilde.com/2011/04/os-x-lion-connection-error-with-afp-and-wo rkaround/

     

    Honestly, I think the end is near for your OS 9 system.  You really need to find a newer solution.  With Mountain Lion on the way, it's likely that more and more legacy processes will no longer be possible.

     

    If you just need to move your files over, you can also boot the old system into target disk mode if it's new enough to support it.  You'll need a  6-pin to 9-pin firewire cable since none of the newer Macs use Fireware 400.

  • 7. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    Daniel O'Leary Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Connecting via IP versus system name will not solve the problem, nor will me "finding a newer solution" - I already have a Mac OS 10.7 system and as of today, there is NOTHING newer (that will change possibly in the up-coming week).  I may look at the "work--round" again though. I checked the link but did not understand it on my first pass. It appeared to be a modification process executed on the 10.7 system to enable some "old and insecure behavior".

     

    The 10.5 based tower I have does not provide built-in hardware support for the IDE disks either, so I cannot just move them to it.  Booting the old system in target mode means physically relocating it into the immediate proximitiy of the 10.7 system, or vice versa AND it does not provide access to all of the hard disks installed. It only provides access to the boot disk in many cases. Not to mention, such relocation is not always convienient for the period of time necessary to move the files and then check the integrity to the relocated versions.   I may however attempt to install an NFS server if I can still find one and connect that way.

     

    There is something wrong with the system hardware too. It will not boot into 10.x from an external drive or from the DVD. When all memory modules are installed, the system indicates a memory test errorr, and it does NOT move when the order of modules is changed. Therefore I cannot install a more recent version of the OS and attempt to get the disks seen over the network that way.

     

    Message was edited by: Daniel O\'Leary to add additional information on things I have tried but yielded unsuccessful results.

  • 8. Re: IMac 10.7 can not connect to an old Mac with Os 9 classic
    KTGHowie Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    I'm very sorry that you're having this problem.  I used to support a lot of users who printed to rips many years ago back when OS 9 was still the standad and OS X was still too new for wide adoption in pre-press departments.  It seems to me that the root cause of the issue is not necessarily that Apple has moved on and updated standards,and phased out old ones, but that your company has stuck with older technology that is no longer supported.  The article that I posted was meant to allow Lion to use an older version of AFP, but it should not tear down its security.  I used that method to allow Lion to connect to a NAS drive.  I hoped that it would help you with OS 9.  Since OS 9, Apple has introduced a lot of new standards and phased out Apple Talk.  Maybe the better solution is to find a replacement for the rip software, and update your work flow. That's easier said than done, but that is likely going to be the best solution in the long run.  That being said, have you contacted any Apple Consultants in your area?  Having someone come out onsite to see how everything is setup could be fruitful.  Most won't charge you just for looking at the problem.  Go to http://consultants.apple.com to find one.