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Macbook for Aperture 3.3

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Jun 12, 2012 1:58 AM

So after the (not so captivating) WWDC I think it's time to go ahead with the new MacBook for Aperture.  Prior to the new refresh I was planning to go with the 15" MBP but not the top one of the two.  After the refresh I'm not so sure.  The new retina models are nice but what a price!!  I'm reluctant to drop that kind of money on a laptop TBH.  The big problem for me is also that they have no FW or Ethernet connectors.  It'll be my only laptop and at times there is a need for ethernet, if only to access a troublesome router or get faster speed.  While I'm planning on a Thunderbolt external HDD for back up at soame stage I also have FW drives that I'd still like to access, so the sparkly retina machines (thankfully - esp when looking at the $3,000 + 750 GB SSD version) are out of the equation.  Any upgrade will also bring me Mountain Lion and Aperture 3.3 of course.

 

I'm not that heavy a processor of pics to be honest but at times I do do a lot.  I also use the full range of Nik Software.  My Aperture library is only about 50GB at the moment so either the 500 or 750 HDDs on the 15" would suffice.  I'd move my masters off to external referenced if it ever became an issue.

 

The question now though is which 15"?  I'm sure the 2.3 GHz would be MUCH faster than my ageing MB (white) 2.16 GHz ICD2 with its 2 GB of RAM, esp if upgraded to 8GB RAM.  The 2.6 is around $400 more here in Malaysia and I'm wondering if it is worth the cost given that the extra 250 GB of HDD I probably don't need.  The only issue I suppose maybe the 1GB video instead of the 512 MB, given that Aperture is quite graphics intensive and, I believe, will prefer to use the discreet video card if it can, thereby also putting less strain on the rest of the system.  Whichever I go for I'll likely upgrade to the anti-glare screen. Surprisingly it seems the 15" cannot be upgraded to 16GB RAM, the only other thing I'd consider.

 

Of course the 2.6 is probably the best option, it's just how much of a compromise the 2.3 would be.

Aperture 3, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,550 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:06 AM (in response to TechAddict)

    Surprisingly it seems the 15" cannot be upgraded to 16GB RAM, the only other thing I'd consider.

    With really large image formats I found that the 16 GB RAM together with an internal SSD made a lot of difference. I would not want to miss those anymore.

    And with a high resolution Retina display ( I bought my MBP too early for that ) RAM will even be more impotant.

    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), 2.4 GHz I.Core i7, 16GB RAM, 500GB
  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:15 AM (in response to léonie)

    leonieDF wrote:

     

    And with a high resolution Retina display ( I bought my MBP too early for that ) RAM will even be more impotant.

    Cache is king.

     

    .

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,550 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 3:31 AM (in response to TechAddict)

    But the 15" vanilla has a much larger HDD (albeit it's not an SSD), keeps a FW / ethernet connection and disc drive, and can be configured with an anti-glare screen, even an SSD if you want (but then the price goes up rapidly).  Just not 16 GB RAM. $2,300 with anti-glare.

    I solved the HDD problem by sacrificing the internal optical drive and having a second internal harddrive put into that slot. So I can have the Aperture Library on the SSD and the referenced masters on a second internal volume. I rarely need to burn CDs or DVDs and a second internal disk is much more useful for me than an internal optical drive. If I need to burn a CD I transfer the files to a different mac or connect an external burner.

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,550 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 3:49 AM (in response to TechAddict)

    I presume your SSD addition was 3rd party and not configured by Apple store?

    It was the Apple SSD, but if you need your Mac only for Aperture and not for GarageBand and iMovie as well I think a smaller SSD should suffice.

     

    I saved on other expenses by buying a bike instead of a new car , so I had money to spare to get a really nice mac.

  • SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,665 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 5:57 AM (in response to TechAddict)

    TechAddict wrote:

    There's a lot of dead end corridors when navigating Apples configuration maps :-(  Clever the way they do it ;-)

     

    Yup. I have always found Apple balances choices/prices to a perfect frustration level. 

     

    I don't have time to fully analyze the new choices yet, but some points are:

     

    • HDD for boot is defunct. SSD is a necessity, so eliminate all HDD choices and price-analyze accordingly.

     

    • All 2011 MBPs can take 16 GB RAM via third party and AFAIK 2012 models are no different. I will be investigating this further, including whether or not the new MBP can take 2 x 16 GB via third party.

     

    • Retina display must actually be seen and compared to do a fair analysis. One must weigh tiny fonts against better image presentation and make a personal-preference choice.

     

    • Ethernet and FW ports are irrelevant, easily dealt with via cables.

     

    • MBPs with Superdrive have the huge benefit (Léonie and I both take advantage of) of being able to replace the optical drive with a 1-TB hard drive, giving a mobile box with cheap SSD for boot plus HDD for mass storage.

     

    HTH

     

    -Allen

  • SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,665 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 7:04 AM (in response to TechAddict)

    TechAddict wrote:

    I have a gut feel that the SSD/8GB RAM option will be better, better still if upraded to 16 GB RAM??

    I fully agree. SSD is the only way to go. And elimininating inappropriate boot HDD from the matrix of choices simplifies the decision process.

     

    -Allen

  • CausticPuppy Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 8:31 AM (in response to TechAddict)

    The 15" Macbook Pro (older design) can actually be upgraded to 16GB, you just have to buy your own RAM.  You have to remove the bottom cover but after that it's pretty easy.  Just replace the two 4GB modules with two 8GB modules.

     

    The new retina version uses RAM integrated onto the motherboard so user upgrades are not possible.

  • SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,665 points)
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    Jun 12, 2012 12:33 PM (in response to TechAddict)

    The new MBPs lack optical drive in favor of being thinner. Personally I like replacing the optical drive with a large HDD a lot. Enough that if I was buying a new MBP today I would buy one of the 2011/2012 models that predates June 2012. Ideally an Apple-SSD model, but an HDD model also works by retrofitting the SSD into the optical drive slot.

     

    If one really likes thin or retina display and must buy the June 2012 MBPs note that like CausticPuppy stated, RAM is apparently soldered on the mobo and not upgradable.

     

    8 GB RAM drives Aperture fine with zero page outs on my 2011 SSD MBP, but when I use a mixed Aperture/Photoshop workflow I easily page out. I recommend 16 GB RAM to folks looking at 2012-2016 Aperture usage on a non-upgradable computer.

     

    Refurbished MBPs are the equal of brand new IMO, just make sure not to get pre-2011.

     

    HTH

     

     

    -Allen

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