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new Macbook Pro No Superdrive or Firewire 800???

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  • John Slaughter Calculating status...
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    Jun 12, 2012 5:23 PM (in response to jws1982)

    OWC makes an external USB enclosure for Apple SSDs (At least for the 2011 Airs, the 2012 Retina Pro is sligtly different)  I would expect them to come out with a new one for the new Retina Pro as well.   You can also buy larger SSDs to replace them with later on. 


    As a Pro Mac user myself, I'd buy the Retina and spend the $60 on FireWire and Ethernet Adapters and enjoy the new Mac.  Just leave the adapters on your FW and Ethernet cables and pretend they arent adapters.


    To each their own, but I spend maybe 5% of my usage on ethernet, and maybe 30% of my time using FireWire drives.  The adapter is a non-issue for me.

  • momoneymoproblems Calculating status...
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    Jun 14, 2012 11:53 PM (in response to ArcProjector)

    You're right and their gross income and market cap firmly support that.

  • dbk9999 Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)
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    Jun 15, 2012 4:27 AM (in response to kidboy)

    I could see some issue with needing, say, both an ethernet and firewire adapter, thus taking up both TB ports.  Would be nice to have something that let you do both with one port (maybe you can - haven't researched it enough yet).  I do know some docks are coming out which cost a fair amount - I'd like something more basic just to plug in both adapters to one port. 


    But I did notice something which should take some of the sting out of paying $29 for those we have available now.


    Since I usually attach my macbook to a big Apple monitor, I decided to see how much I could save if I just opted for the non-retina MBP.  As near as I can tell, the top of the line on both have pretty much the same stuff in processing power.  But one thing I definitely would want, even with an iMac, would be an SSD drive (512 minimum, but right now that would be all I could afford anyway).  The retina version includes that.  The other does not.  Now, the basic price difference is $600, but ADDING the SSD drive costs $900!!!  So, if you are going for that SSD upgrade, moving to the retina model is like SAVING $300, plus getting a retina screen for free!


    There are, of course, some other differences.  Only one TB port on the non-retina model and no HDMI. On the plus side, the non-retina model has firewire and ethernet plus it has audio line in and out.  Oh, and I assume it has the built-in superdrive, but really, when you look at the package, the retina display is one heck of a deal, even if you have to buy some adapters and an external superdrive (though remember, if you have another computer in the system, you can access their dvd drives).

  • DSmig Calculating status...
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    Jun 24, 2012 10:26 PM (in response to kidboy)

    I have noticed that I need my Superdrive less and less. I don't need it to watch movies anymore, don't need to download software anymore, don't need to create CD's anymore. I have to admit I was a little alarmed when the new Retina's didn't have it (I need to purchase an additional MBP for my daughter), but then I though...she probably wont need it.

  • Endoman99 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 28, 2012 2:46 PM (in response to kidboy)

    I agree... this is ridiculous now... where the heck is the Firewire connection?! They announced the adaptor but it's not out yet!! I need it as I have a tone of footage in my G-Drives I need to use in FCP X which connects via Firewire 800! They're sitting there. I don't want to use USB3.0 I want my Firewire!!

  • technewbie649 Calculating status...
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    Jul 31, 2012 6:00 AM (in response to kidboy)

    Yeah, there are those of us with expensive legacy devices (like my Metric Halo 2882, 8 channel audio interface) that use Firewire, but I don't mind buying adapters. But only having ONE Thunderbolt on the retina MBP is a problem if you also have to connect hard drives through it in the field and connect to a hard wired ethernet network in some audio studio you're working in. And the superdrive is really missed if you have a large CD or DVD collection you like to sample from when you tarvel or you have to burn a CD or DVD on the road. And some things are just not published in the cloud, like Rosetta Stone language packages, especially if you buy one used from somebody (they are super expensive and super good, so there is a used market) and they are used, when? WHEN YOU TRAVEL!!. Also Teaching Company lecture sets (not cloud published or, in many cases, available as MP3s)! I know you have to make choices when you design and I know Apple is encouraging cloud computing, but the superdrive is sorely missed, by me, anyway. It's just not a complete desktop replacement on the road without it, And the non-standard SSD Hard Drive, too, if you have to replace a hard drive on the road.  So, very sadly and reluctanly, I'm going to have to pass up the retina model and grab a 'complete' MBP while I still can. Why can't they just put a retina display on the old design for those of us who need it?

    N.B. I stand corrected on mixing up the Thunderbolt drive number, while still editing this post. Thanks. - Paul

  • Shootist007 Level 6 Level 6 (16,640 points)

    There are 2 Thunderbolt ports on the Retina MBP. The standard MBP has 1 TB port and a FireWire port.


    Please review the specs before posting.

  • technewbie649 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 31, 2012 6:08 AM (in response to Shootist007)

    The whole superdrive situation has me turned off to the Retina MBP, so I didn't review the specs thoroughly. But, for the sake of others, I should have been more careful. 'One TB on the Retina MBP' was something I thought I saw in someone else's comments and either they were wrong or I misread. Thanks for the correction. P

  • vageman Calculating status...
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    Jan 14, 2013 4:01 PM (in response to kidboy)

    I would like apple to always have an superdrive option. For myself, I have a huge DVD library that I would hate to re-purchase. It's like Apple is going backwards with opting out of the superdrive. So, I hope when I have to re-purchase a Macbook pro that it will still have a superdrive option (even without a retina display).


    For now I'm happy they still have a Macbook pro with a superdrive.

  • markwmsn Level 4 Level 4 (3,935 points)
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    Jan 14, 2013 10:36 PM (in response to vageman)

    There is still a superdrive option even with the Retina MBPs: People who want a superdrive can buy an external superdrive; people who don't want it don't have to buy it. (Before, there was no option; MBPs came with superdrives.)

  • MacLady Calculating status...
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    Feb 2, 2013 6:09 PM (in response to markwmsn)

    How in heck do you repair a computer's HD with out a CD/DVD drive to boot from?

  • stevejobsfan0123 Level 7 Level 7 (30,460 points)
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    Feb 2, 2013 6:12 PM (in response to MacLady)

    With the Recovery Partition, accessed by holding Command + R during bootup.

  • John Slaughter Level 1 Level 1 (140 points)
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    Feb 2, 2013 6:13 PM (in response to MacLady)

    I can't tell if you're being serious or not, so I'll giggle with you and assume it's a joke.


    Obviously, boot from USB.   Especially now that the OS doesnt come on a disc anymore, and the download can be made into a USB drive with a simple Google search.   I haven't used an optical drive in years.  I can keep using my FireWire drives too with the adapter.  Even Target Disk Mode still works.

  • Shootist007 Level 6 Level 6 (16,640 points)
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    Feb 2, 2013 6:25 PM (in response to MacLady)

    With all new Mac computer Apple has implimented the Online Internet Recovery system. That is where you boot the system from over the internet and from there you can use Disk Utility to repair a drive, if it is repareable, or partition and format a new drive then reinstall OS X.


    You access that Online system by holding down the Command+r keys or the Command+Option+r keys until you see a spinning globe in the center of the screen. It is best to have the system Wired to your Internet Router. WiFi will work but if the WiFi drops out for any reason you will need to start the OS download over.

    MacLady wrote:


    How in heck do you repair a computer's HD with out a CD/DVD drive to boot from?

  • MacLady Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

    I dunno.. I'm skeptical of this... there are too many other things one needs a drive for...


    This is going to stop a lot of people from advancing to system 10.8... sounds like we're going backward.


    I also miss having a fax modem inside the computer.


    I just bought a new iMac but it has a superdrive.


    And I won't update it past 10.6.x which is what is installed.


    I will NOT use a computer that has its whole system online in some 'cloud'. Too iffy.


    Plus most people don't know how to do this geeky partitioning stuff. They want it simple.


    Install your software, repair from boot up disk, be happy.


    Partitioning and over the internet doesn't work for me, and I've been fixing Macs since OS 6.


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