It was more intended as a protest, but I was speaking for me personally.
If nothing else changes, and Apple does not hear all the 17"MBP users cries, then who knows what's ahead.
I have not tried a refurb purchase, but have thought about it for iMacs and Mac Pro, but not so much for the laptops.
In any case, not in a position to buy a spare or two 17s right now, so I'll have to wait and see what happens in the next few weeks. If no hint of a new 17 is on the horizon, maybe wait a few months, then throw in the towel and figure out what to do then.
Personally (and I know it's spitefull) I'm not supporting their refurb 17" market. why buy somthing that's not really what I wanted and i'll just have to settle for. I'm not handing over my hard earned dollars just so they cun run out there ex demo's and returns for near next to new prices anyway. Not disputing the qualitity just the principal. I guess if your desperate and it absolutely has to be a 17" MAC then people will do what they need to do. i'd rather stick my middle finger up and go buy a PC.
Harsh i know
My wife and I just stopped by the nearest apple store to check out the 15" retina. I would classify it as a "Mac Air Pro" more than a macbook pro. It's beautiful, light, fast as heck, but it's 100% 15" form factor.
Proportion wise it's visually the same resolution for objects on the screen as the non-retina, what has improved is pixel density and clarity. It seems like fonts benefit most from this and obviously high resolution images and the ability to view HD is now trivial within this screen size.
I had hoped if they were to replace the 17" screen, retina displays would give proportionately more real-estate on the screen but it's not the case. Maybe there is a setting you can use to maximize relative scale but I didn't look.
Interesting to note that Images optimised for current web standards look like crap on the retina display leaving the most noticable improvement (visually) at the font / image levels. Apps not optimised for retina will probably look like crap for a while yet.
For me, any notion that this could ostensibly replace my 17" is somewhat moot. It's simply not an option for me. That said, if I ever considered the mac-air line I would be more inclined to get a 15" retina display macbook pro instead.
Even if the 17" is gone fro good, "loyalty" has apparently been lost from Apple's lexicon.
Making you pay for the external superdrive and other items, while still raising prices on what are becoming even more proprietary systems should give one pause.
I have heard a lot about 17s being heavy, but that's the trade-off for getting a desktop replacement that you can take with you. All ports and periperhal connections onboard. No dongles, other than the power adapter.
What, now I need another adapter for the new 15" because the existing magsafe port connection won;t work? Are you kidding me?!
How about ditching the 13" unit and only offer 15" and 17" units? Or stop wasting time on two types of Macbook Air systems? Why would someone buy an 13" Air versus an 11" Air?, Because the screen is bigger that's why.
Same applies to the real laptops. Apple could have also created a pricing scheme that jettisoned the 11" Air, and the 13" MBP, brought the 15" pricing down and then the 17" units could have been priced lower.
If there was only a 17" MBP and and 17" MacBook Air, people would still by them.
I wonder when the Mini is going to the way of the Dodo?
Time to buy a few spare 17s and keep em ready to go! I wish I had the cash to do that.
There are so many others, maybe some of us on this forum, that are posting on MacRumors, that maybe the suits will get the message.
What's the big deal. Make a few runs each year of 17s based on the strong likelyhood that the 2%ers will buy a new one every few years. They would not need to do much except retool for different CPUs and video once in a while.
> Maybe there is a setting you can use to maximize relative scale but I didn't look.
Retina Display MBP owners now get a slider under OS X's Display Preferences that allow you to specify desktop resolutions other than 1440 x 900. At 1440 x 900 you don't get any increase in usable desktop resolution compared to a standard 15-inch MacBook Pro, but everything is ridiculously crisp. If you're like me however and opted for the 1680 x 1050 "high-res" upgrade last generation, this won't do. Thankfully Apple offers 1680 x 1050 and 1920 x 1200 scaling options that trade a bit of image quality and performance for added real estate.
-- reported by MacRumors from an article on ArsTechnica
Yes where is the 17 inch macbook pro? I have only had a 17 inch MacBook Pro beacause the others are to small for the work I do they should give people the option to have a 17 inch built not just totally end one of the best products Apple has to offer im heart broken over this my 17 inch MacBook pro is my life I dont know what I will do without it. i hope they are just setting the ground work like the did in the pass and releasing the updated 17 inch at a later date.
Really? No 17" for the new MBPro? What's going on with Apple? I can understand maybe for the regular MacBook, but for the Pro users, we need the 17" because us, the creative types, need the real estate to be able to do our work.
Also, I'm not happy about the new super-glued inside parts. What if I need the Genius Bar to upgrade my memory? I don't want to pay $500+ to replace the entire logicboard, only $50 for the memory chip.
If only we could bring Jobs back from the dead. Apple, get your act together.
What if I need the Genius Bar to upgrade my memory? I don't want to pay $500+ to replace the entire logicboard, only $50 for the memory chip.
Since upgrading the RAM isn't an option, max out the RAM as part of your original purchase. It costs more than plug-in RAM because it's nonstandard, but it's a lot cheaper than replacing the logic board. And the fact that it doesn't need sockets allows your machine to be thinner.