11 Replies Latest reply: Jun 21, 2012 10:56 PM by Tom Wolsky
andynick Level 5 Level 5 (4,840 points)

Just playing with FCPX at the moment and so far I love it but I need to get started on my project very soon and there are a few silly things that are really bugging me.

 

The most annoying thing is that I can't find out how to remove a clip from the timeline without removing it from the event browser too!

 

If I add a clip - and then add further clips, I can delete all but the original with the delete key - but if I use the delete key to remove the original clip (from the timeline) the clip disappears from the event browser.

 

What on earth am I doing wrong - and why on earth have I had to search for hours for an answer in the manuals and on the internet - to no avail)?


Final Cut Pro X, Mac OS X (10.7), "I've taught you all I know, and still you know nothing".
  • 1. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (106,180 points)

    What are you doing to delete the clip? Are you pressing the delete key next to the = key or something else. Deleting a clip in a project does not delete it from the browser if the apoplication is used properly.

     

    I think maybe you should post a screenshot of your porject.

     

    Maybe you're added a clip then connected other clips to it? If so, use Shift-delete to replace with gap.

     

    Neither case will remove a clip from the browser. They're quite separate. two instances of the same media.

  • 2. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    still_learning Level 3 Level 3 (785 points)

    "If I add a clip - and then add further clips, I can delete all but the original with the delete key - but if I use the delete key to remove the original clip (from the timeline) the clip disappears from the event browser."

     

    I created a new project. Then I added three clips to the timeline.  I deleted the last two I had added with the delete key ... no problem. Then I deleted the first clip I had added (the original) with the delete key, and all clips remained represented in the Event Browser.  Sorry, but I could not duplicate it. Best wishes.

    stephen

  • 3. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    andynick Level 5 Level 5 (4,840 points)

    Ooops!

    My mistake - I was opening a clip in the timeline, rather than creating a project.

    Now wonder it deleted it from the event browser!

     

    Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.

    Andy

  • 4. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (106,180 points)

    Yikes. Be careful of that one.

  • 5. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    mikegit Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm not sure this is answered.  Same problem for me, but within an existing project.  I added the first clip for this project (existing named project opened several times during file injest and keyword assign) from the Event Browser to the Timeline by right-clicking on the Browser clip and selecting Open in Timeline. Does this mean that I'm still just editing a clip and not really adding a clip to the Timeline?  The Timeline displays the project name, not the Event Library folder name.

    I then deleted it from the Timeline with the Del key and/or Cmd-X.  The clip disappears from the Event Browser and the Timeline.  Replacing the Timeline clip with a Gap clip also removed the clip from the Event Browser.  Trying to Cmd-Z crashed the program, thus saving these "changes" to disk for the project. Opening File>Properties and opening the Project Library shows the name of my project so I'm assuming I'm working from an existing project.

    The bigger general question might be why does changing the Timeline content EVER change the Browser content and how do I know that I'm not really editing the Timeline?  Not having a way to close the program without saving the project doesn't encourage editing experimentation either.

  • 6. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (106,180 points)

    by right-clicking on the Browser clip and selecting Open in Timeline.

     

    This is wrong. You do not open the clip, you edit the clip into a project. Make a new project, edit the clip into the project.

     

    When you open in timeline, you are editing the clip; you are effecting the clip that's in the browser. You edit into a project. The project is in the timeline. Multiple functions use the timeline panel. Opening a clip in timeline is one of them; that's not how you edit your video.

  • 7. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    mikegit Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Tom Wolsky wrote:

     

    by right-clicking on the Browser clip and selecting Open in Timeline.

     

    This is wrong. You do not open the clip, you edit the clip into a project. Make a new project, edit the clip into the project.

     

    When you open in timeline, you are editing the clip; you are effecting the clip that's in the browser. You edit into a project. The project is in the timeline. Multiple functions use the timeline panel. Opening a clip in timeline is one of them; that's not how you edit your video.

     

    Thanks for the quick reply, Tom.

    I confirmed that dragging a clip from the Browser to the Timeline can then be deleted from the Timeline without being deleted from the Browser. 

    The problem was using "Open In Timeline" from the Browser drop-down menu to get a more detailed view of the CLIP.  If it is, as you state "wrong" to open the clip then I wonder why the option exists. I wasn't attempting to edit the storyline yet, just the clip, expecting to be able to remove it from the Timeline window and leave it in the Browser after editing (or reviewing) the clip using the Timeline window. 

    Although I find some of these concepts contradictory as stated above (forgive me, I wrote software for 20 years as a living and learned that it's not a good idea to expect the user to know what the designer is thinking) I THINK I understand the intended design.  I feel the "option" to open a clip in the Timeline is far more dangerous than useful.  If multiple functions use the Timeline panel, I wonder how the Timeline is "cleared" to make way for the actual storyline clips.  I created a new project and discovered that the deleted clip isn't good enough to re-import anyway.  I doubt that I will use the Browser "Open in Timeline" option in the future, lesson learned!

    Thanks for your reply,

    MikeGit

  • 8. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (106,180 points)

    The option is there to allow you to see content of clips opened from within a project, to make global color correction, to make sync adjustments, and other things. It's not how you edit your video. Yes, it is dangerous. It is a global alteration of a clip. The timeline is cleared by opening a new project.

  • 9. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    mikegit Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks, Tom, that's what I resorted to to clear the timeline.

  • 10. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    Jeremmmeh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I still do not understand how to remove the clip from the timeline after you open in the Timeline vs dragging and dropping. I want to rotate an entire video in my Event Browser, so I can view it in the Event Browser without having to look at the video upsidedown. The only way I have been able to edit the entire video is by opening in Timeline, after I rotate my video, how do I delete it from the Timeline without deleting from the Event Browser?

  • 11. Re: Removing Clips from Timeline
    Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (106,180 points)

    The timeline panel is a workspace. When you finish working on one clip or compound clip or project in the timeline you open another.