7 Replies Latest reply: Jun 23, 2012 11:03 AM by Michael Graubart
Michael Graubart Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

Some of my applications that came with OS X 10.4.11 have become damaged. I have tried two ways of replacing them from the 10.4.11 Combo installer package downloaded from Apple.

 

1. I removed the faulty ones from my Applications folder and then ran the installer. None of the applications were downloaded into my Applications folder.

 

2. I used Pacifist to look into the installer package. In the Applications folder within the package, all (or most) of the applications had the generic icon that shows that an application is broken or incomplete, and when I extracted two of them by means of Pacifist, they retained that icon and did not work.

 

Can anyone tell me why this is? And, more importantly, how I can obtain working versions of iCal and Address Book? I should be most grateful for suggestions. If anyone has working versions of these and could send them to me by e-mail, I should be very grateful, too.

  • 1. Re: Applications in 10.4.11 installer package broken/won't download
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    1. The Combo only Updates Apps it finds I believe, so I don't think you want to trash them first.

     

    2. Almost sounds like you didn't choose the whole app, but the Package contents???

     

    Hmmm, just used Pacifist to extrat AB from the 10.4.11 PPC Combo, it was only 4.4 MB, so it just replaces parts of AB.

    ABgetInfo.gif

    And from the Combo...

    PacifistABCombo.gif

  • 2. Re: Applications in 10.4.11 installer package broken/won't download
    Michael Graubart Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

    I tried two different approaches, BDAqua:

     

    1. I used Pacifist to extract the wanted app. from the App. Folder inside the install package. What it extracted was an incomplete version of the app. When I Iooked again (in Pacifist) at the App. Folder in the package, I saw that all or most of the apps. had the generic 'broken or incomplete' icon. If you look carefully at the lower part of your picture, you will see that this was so in your case, too. That is why the extracted app. was broken or incomplete.

     

    2. I double-clicked on the installer package and followed instructions through. As you say, this updated those apps.that it found in my own App. Folder. But it updated them with one of its broken or incomplete apps.

     

    So my question remains: why are the apps. in the 10.4.11 installation package broken or incomplete?

  • 3. Re: Applications in 10.4.11 installer package broken/won't download
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    1. The lower one is from the 10.4.11 Combo updater, not the Instal Disc, didn't have a 10.4 Install Disc here so the top shot is from 10.5 Install Disc, which show the correct icon on the left & correct size.

     

    Will try to check a 10.4 Install Disc tonight.

  • 4. Re: Applications in 10.4.11 installer package broken/won't download
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    Hmmm, are your 10.4 Install Discs more than one?

     

    Just tried my Mac Mini, 10.4.2 Install Discs which is a 4 or 5 set, and indeed AB was a generic icon & small, I believe more resides on other Discs in the set, likely #2.

     

    Have you considered...

     

    If all the above fails, then it appears to be time for a relatively painless Archive & Install, which gives you a new/old OS, but can preserve all your files, pics, music, settings, etc., as long as you have plenty of free disk space and no Disk corruption, and is relatively quick & painless...

     

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120

     

    Just be sure to select Preserve Users & Settings.

  • 5. Re: Applications in 10.4.11 installer package broken/won't download
    Michael Graubart Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

    Thanks for the information about Archive & Install. I shall keep it handy in case I need it in the future. What I have learnt from all this is that there is a fundamental difference between install disks and the update packages that one can download from Apple. The latter have incomplete applications, the former have the complete ones.

     

    The install disks that came with my eMac are prehistoric, but the ones that came with the Mini that I have recently acquired aret more recent and I was able to extract a working iCal from them, which indicated that the trouble with iCal I am still having as a result of trying Missing Sync with my Palm handheld instead of the Palm software — see my question in the iCal community — seems not not to be due to a faulty iCal application but something to do with its connection to the databases, because the trouble persisted when I used the version of iCal I had extracted from the Mini install disks..

  • 6. Re: Applications in 10.4.11 installer package broken/won't download
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    And the funny thing about my Mini Discs, are they have 10.3 printed on them, but are indeed 10.4.2 !?

  • 7. Re: Applications in 10.4.11 installer package broken/won't download
    Michael Graubart Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

    Better that way round, I suppose, than the reverse! But with my present iCal problem, I feel like that presumptuous young lady of Riga:

     

    There was a young lady of Riga

    Who smiled as she rode on a tiger.

    They returned from the ride

    With the lady inside

    And the smile on the face of the tiger.