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ChronoSynch and Aperture

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wombat2007 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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Jul 5, 2012 11:34 AM

Q for the group

I've switched over to referenced masters and cut down the size of my .aplibrary by 70%

It is however, still around 78GB for working conditions.

 

My question is, when I include the library in a ChronoSynch backup over the network it takes quite a while,

becasue it sees the file as modified everytime and it has to copy over the entire file //

 

I do keep vaults on two seperate external drives ==

Any suggestions on workflow from ChronoUsers ? Should I simply exclude the .aplibrary from my backup ?

 

 

JJ

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.4), 32 GB DDR3, Triple TB Display
  • Shuttleworth125 Level 2 Level 2 (415 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 12:12 PM (in response to wombat2007)

    We use it in the manner you suggest, Chronosync only backs up the referenced masters to the external drives, and we use vaults on the externals to back up the library. We also run Time Machine to a Time Capsule, though I'm not certain that this backs up Aperture libraries when they are open.

     

    I think you can set Chronosync to backup a file when an application closes, this might be another option for you.

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,595 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 5:09 PM (in response to wombat2007)

    JJ --

     

    Fwiw, SuperDuper! is, afaict, smart enough to copy only the changed files within the Library.  At the same time, it still has to read all the files, and this can take as long as it takes Finder to simply copy the files.

     

    I set SuperDuper! to run when none of the Libraries or machines are in use (viz.: overnight), and to update sparse bundle files of every Library and every set of Referenced Originals.  I only do this once per week, however, on alternating back-up drives.  I back up all critical Libraries every day using Time Machine.  (TM worked _poorly_ with early editions of Aperture 3.x.  It has become usable -- kudos, I guess, to Apple's engineers.)

     

    I administer one very large and unwieldy Library (finishing the upgrade to 3.3.x took 170 hours of full-on processing on a 5,5 MBP).  I'm just getting to the point of setting this back up for back-ups.  I will be looking at efficient ways to do this.  I gave up on Vaults long ago -- I couldn't get consistent results on any Vault over 50 GB (iirc).  Afaik, this limitation has been removed in the most recent upgrades.

     

    My biggest Library contains over 3 million files (not Images -- files).

     

    Fwiw, I _think_ that TM now backs up at least part of open Aperture Libraries.  Have not taken the time to pin this down, however.  TM certainly exhibits much better behavior with Aperture -- but this may be the result of (programmatically) ignoring it.

     

    So my suggestions:

    - make sure your Vaults are working (verify!).

    - see if SuperDuper! is better are updating back-ups.  (Iirc, a trial is available.)

     

    I am semi-happily running a rMBP, and may move all external storage to USB3 or T-bolt.  As it is, I can't sell my old MBP until Apple releases the Firewire<>Thunderbolt adapter.  (Yo!!)  I am not savvy enough about hardware to know if the faster bus (is it the bus?) will increase overall performance.

  • jderuvophotography Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 6:11 PM (in response to wombat2007)

    I believe you can set ChronoSync to dissect Packages so that the whole Library does not get copyed over every time

    This is how we have it set up

  • jderuvophotography Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 7:49 PM (in response to wombat2007)

    Happy to help

    Been using ChronoSync for years just for this purpose

  • jderuvophotography Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 8:04 PM (in response to wombat2007)

    For us!

    We have a computer acting as the Library host/server with a couple of Addonic cases plugged into it

    This all runs WiFi

    When I come back from a job with a portable hard drive I will back it up over the network

    But I am not using the wireless as part of my backup routine

    To get things off site we go the swap out harddrive route on a regular basis depending on how many jobs are running at the time

    Hope this helped a bit, not the exact surnario you were looking for but it's how we work and finding something that works for you and sticking to it goes a long way! :-)

  • jderuvophotography Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
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    Jul 15, 2012 8:55 PM (in response to wombat2007)

    The Addonics make the swap easy.

    Also this is our offsite (3rd) backup

    We also have a cradle running for the offsite stuff and to clone harddrives with when needed

    Running the Canons on WiFi? No never, closest is using the EyeFi card with ShutterSnitch to iPad when we have Clients in the Studio

    Shooting RAW with only small jpegs being sent to the iPad runs pretty smoothly for the way we shoot

    Joseph

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