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How do I get flash player on iPad.

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  • Lord Harding Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 4:17 AM (in response to Julian Wright)

    Julian Wright wrote:

     

    You seem to be forgetting that it was Adobe's decision last October to cease development of Flash for ALL mobile devices - not just iOS ones.

     

     

     

    Adobe ceased development because iOS continues to be so dominant, especially on tablets (because iPads are awesome) and Apple effectively got their way. I would have done the same as Adobe. They are not a massive company and it would make no commercial sense to keep investing in Flash Mobile when such a large part of the market is prevented from using it.

     

    By the way, I should have added that I never had the need to use Flash on the iPhone, it was only when the iPad came along where I really noticed the difference as I use that much more for browsing.

     

     

    Your kids schools had better hurry up and remake all their Flash only study materials, as going forward, no students will have access to them from tablets and other mobile devices.

     

     

    I'd be delighted for all the educational websites around to stop using Flash. A more interesting discussion is to ask why that isn't happening faster?

     

     

    They obviously haven't bothered to type "Moshi Monsters" into the AppStore search box then.

     

    Unless I missed something, none of the Moshi apps are the same as the Flash based experience, they are more mini-games and novelties. My kids would be very grateful if you could point me to the right app.

  • thegeek Level 2 Level 2 (200 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 4:19 AM (in response to Lord Harding)

    i see, this had been a long discussion!

  • thegeek Level 2 Level 2 (200 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 4:20 AM (in response to Lord Harding)

    please call off the discussion as it was started on Apr 21, 2011 4:13 PM

  • BobTheFisherman Level 6 Level 6 (10,610 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 4:26 AM (in response to thegeek)

    If you and others, including me, stop posting to this thread it will just die. But this post will help keep it alive for a few more minutes

  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 5:09 AM (in response to Lord Harding)
    Adobe ceased development because iOS continues to be so dominant, especially on tablets (because iPads are awesome) and Apple effectively got their way. I would have done the same as Adobe. They are not a massive company and it would make no commercial sense to keep investing in Flash Mobile when such a large part of the market is prevented from using it.

     

     

    iOS market share for both tablets and smartphones is going down - not up. Android marketshare is going up. So that "large part of the market" is actually decreasing.

     

    What put the nail in the coffin for Flash on Android is the effort required and expense of making it for an already fragmented OS. That fragmentation is only going to get worse as more and more Android based devices are released, running all different versions of Android on quite different hardware.

     

    iOS devices have never had Flash - so Adobe is saving nothing by 'stopping development' of something that didn't exist in the first place.

     

    Fact is, and you can read it here, Adobe realised that Flash really isn't best suited for mobile, and HTML5 is the way forward, after trying it for a couple of years. And that's what they are focussing on.

  • Lord Harding Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 6:11 AM (in response to Julian Wright)

    You make a good point about the fragmented Android market and I agree with that. However, I don't believe that Adobe would have made that decision if Flash was 'universally supported across all mobile devices", in the same way as HTML5. We'll never know I guess.

     

    Setting aside the tech argument: there are many iPad owners who only really care about the fact that their iPads don't run rather a lot of websites properly and don't really care which technology those websites are developed in. Personally speaking, that's the main reason why my iPad remains a (much-loved) compliment to my home laptop rather than a complete replacement.

  • TalRed Calculating status...
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    Jul 5, 2012 7:57 AM (in response to Lord Harding)

    Ok.....I can't read through this entire thread.  I want to order some tickets off of a site that requires flash. Is there a way to use this site on my iPad, or am I unable to use any website that requires flash? I am not pro or anti flash......I just want to be able to use any website I wish.

  • tonefox Level 5 Level 5 (7,750 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 8:19 AM (in response to TalRed)

    Read the first page. Force yourself. Nothing new has been added since.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,455 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 8:19 AM (in response to TalRed)

    There is no flash for the ipad, so your answer is no

  • James Ward4 Level 7 Level 7 (23,155 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 8:42 AM (in response to TalRed)

    A website using flash for financial transactions? Bad news from a security standpoint.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,445 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 9:22 AM (in response to johndaily)

    johndaily wrote:

     

    Killed on IOS only.

    Only if iOS is also Android (jokes aside) and all other mobile OSs, then you are correct.

     

    Was watching cartoons with the kids this morning and a commercial came up about fruity pebbles and a game you can play online.

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    And sure enough, couldn't play it, had to grab my sons galaxy tab.

    Why not download the iOS app?

    -> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=Fruity++pebbles+game+iOS&source=web&cd=1& ved=0CFQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmy-bedrock%2Fid4818 31544%3Fmt%3D8&ei=zbz1T7f5L4q49QTP9f3WBg&usg=AFQjCNECEjNtbFy0k2ion7HwlUViLnk1WA

     

    Grabbed the iPad, knowing I had a 1 in a million chance it would be playable since the web on iPad is useless.

    and yet, 65% of those using the web with mobile devices happen to be using iOS. (with Android coming in at a whopping 19%. Most of those are probably playing the fruity pebbles game. )

     

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  • lkrupp Level 4 Level 4 (3,085 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 5:49 PM (in response to BobTheFisherman)

    BobTheFisherman wrote:

     

    If you and others, including me, stop posting to this thread it will just die. But this post will help keep it alive for a few more minutes

     

    This thread is now all about the "I can't use the REAL Internet on iOS devices, so Apple is evil and Android rules" crowd trying to save face. They refuse to accept the fact that Flash is no longer supported on mobile OSs going forward. For five years now they have been bashing iOS as inferior, substandard, unusable because it doesn't support Flash. They have invested their egos in arguing that Flash will remain the video standard on the web for decades to come and iOS users are stupid for buying Apple products. Flash has been their rallying cry, their main talking point, their reason for being. And it all went up in smoke last week when Adobe annouced that beginning August 15 Flash would no longer be available for download on Android and that Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) would not be supported at all.

     

    So the backtracking, retribution, faulty logic, blame game is in full swing here. And, of course, it's all Apple's fault.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,445 points)
  • johndaily Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 8:15 PM (in response to lkrupp)

    lkrupp wrote:

     

    For five years now they have been bashing iOS as inferior, substandard, unusable because it doesn't support Flash.

     

    And they were right for 5 years.

     

    Chris,

     

    Nice image, and looks like mobile safari is dominant.

     

    But in the proper context... you can see it is a very small player.

     

    2012Win7VistaNT*WinXPLinuxMacMobile
    June53.2%3.7%1.1%26.2%5.0%8.6%1.6%

     

    So having 60% of that 1.6% put's it at a wopping 0.90% of all internet traffic.

     

    2012TotaliOS *AndroidOthers
    June1.63 %0.90 %0.52 %0.21 %

     

    Add in the desktop version of Safari and you're still below 5%

     

    2012Total


    June4.1 %

     

     

    Wanna talk about impressive numbers, Windows makes up 84.2% of all computers in the world, now that's impressive.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,445 points)
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    Jul 5, 2012 9:12 PM (in response to johndaily)

    johndaily wrote:

    Chris,

     

    Nice image, and looks like mobile safari is dominant.

     

    But in the proper context... you can see it is a very small player.

    Relative to what I responded to ("1 in a million chance it would be playable since the web on iPad is useless.") (emphasis mine)

    So it looks like there are three times more iPad/iPhone users doing absolutely nothing on the internet than Android users.

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